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As far as I know, Nintendo didn´t endorse the 'Wii60' idea...after that idea came from MS, I remember Nintendo saying something like "no, buy Wii games instead".
| JGarret said: @STAGE As far as I know, Nintendo didn´t endorse the 'Wii60' idea...after that idea came from MS, I remember Nintendo saying something like "no, buy Wii games instead". |
That's correct. Nintendo never did say anything about the "Wii60" thing. Before the Wii, Iwata said their goal not to sell more units than MS or Sony, but to try a different and more profitable approach. It worked. When Peter Moore made the "Wii60" comment, there was probably a large under-estimation on his part in predicting the Wii side of the equation.
Peter Moore's expertise was in branding and that's why he was appointed as the executive of the gaming division. He knows how brand loyalty and fanboy psychology works.
Hate is a work among fanboys and loyalists. In capatilistic business, it's all about one man's loss being another man's gain. If cooperating results in a gain of both said men, then it they will do that.
Sony and Microsoft have different but interdependent products in the Office. Sony and Microsoft have clashing and competing products in the living room. There is nothing more than that.
Rocketpig and Reasonable are right. This market isn't over saturated. Many markets have multiple competitors without one dominating PS2 style. The Big Three is going to be here for a while, whether you all like it or not.
"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY." --Hermann Goering, leading Nazi party member, at the Nuremberg War Crime Trials
Conservatives: Pushing for a small enough government to be a guest in your living room, or even better - your uterus.
@Final Evangelon, theres only one major operating system for computers, one internet, one fax machine standard etc. If the consoles continue to lack interoperatability then as more and more consoles are connected...
There can be only one.
Tease.
| Squilliam said: @Final Evangelon, theres only one major operating system for computers, one internet, one fax machine standard etc. If the consoles continue to lack interoperatability then as more and more consoles are connected... There can be only one. |
Many car manufacturers, many manufacturers of televisions, many fast food joints, etc.
There may be some more standardization, but this generation won't be seeing only one console manufacturer. Probably not next generation either. If one leaves, another one will probably come in to try and compete.
"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY." --Hermann Goering, leading Nazi party member, at the Nuremberg War Crime Trials
Conservatives: Pushing for a small enough government to be a guest in your living room, or even better - your uterus.
Go MS
End of 2011 (made 02/01/11)
Wii: 99.453 m
Xbox 360: 67.837 m
Ps 3: 60.726 m
Best Games/Serie of the Generation
| JGarret said: @STAGE As far as I know, Nintendo didn´t endorse the 'Wii60' idea...after that idea came from MS, I remember Nintendo saying something like "no, buy Wii games instead". |
You're right, Nintendo didn't respond. I could've sworn they did, but it is factual that both Nintendo and MS cannot stand Sony. Microsoft got a whole shitload of Nintendo followers behind them, even creating a website called wii60.com. Microsoft's Peter Moore started the trend.
Microsoft befriends Nintendo in the fight against Sony:
http://www.joystiq.com/2006/05/11/microsoft-befriends-nintendo-in-fight-vs-sony/
FinalEvangelion said:
Many car manufacturers, many manufacturers of televisions, many fast food joints, etc.
There may be some more standardization, but this generation won't be seeing only one console manufacturer. Probably not next generation either. If one leaves, another one will probably come in to try and compete. |
As more an more people start to use the online components the most important feature becomes "can I connect with my friends" moreso than "who has the best games/whose hardware is better". PSN does not connect with Xbox Live so it becomes more of an issue as time passes.
Tease.
Squilliam said:
As more an more people start to use the online components the most important feature becomes "can I connect with my friends" moreso than "who has the best games/whose hardware is better". PSN does not connect with Xbox Live so it becomes more of an issue as time passes.
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That is a point. If only PSN and XBL integrated with Steam...
"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY." --Hermann Goering, leading Nazi party member, at the Nuremberg War Crime Trials
Conservatives: Pushing for a small enough government to be a guest in your living room, or even better - your uterus.
FinalEvangelion said:
That is a point. If only PSN and XBL integrated with Steam... |
Unfortunately, either the games will become interoperatable or one of the players will have to drop out, perhaps even two. Even if only 50% of machines are ever connected, if one manufacturer gets a majority of those machines it will be easy to grab much of the non connected machines due to sheer weight of numbers and keep them because community will hold people to a particular manufacturer. This has been Microsofts strategy all along.
Tease.
Microsoft will never drop out, they need to protect windows which RAKES in money.
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