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Aj_habfan on 21 April 2009
Kasz216 said:
Aj_habfan said:
Kasz216 said:

I disagree.... I think piracy has created a huge chunk of PSPs sold.

Without piracy... these PSPs just wouldn't of sold.


It's like the Ipod.  Is piracy hurting Itunes sales....?  Or is it pushing more Ipods.

Studies seem to show it's the latter.

You don't pirate games you don't want to play. Obviously these people want to play these games, they are just taking the free and easy option. In time, most of these people would have bought one anyway, I believe.

 

Do you buy every game you want to play?  What if Uncharted 2 cost $400?

Do you buy really expensive food you would like to eat whenever you would want to eat it?  Or do you say "You know... that tastes good but it's too expensive."

That's why I said "in time". They may have not been able to buy it right away, but eventually as the software comes, many would buy it or save up and buy it. This isn't some third world country where games cost $150 on $900 consoles forcing people to start illegally downloading. In the main markets, PSP and most games are affordable.

 



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Kasz216 on 21 April 2009
Aj_habfan said:
Kasz216 said:
Aj_habfan said:
Kasz216 said:

I disagree.... I think piracy has created a huge chunk of PSPs sold.

Without piracy... these PSPs just wouldn't of sold.


It's like the Ipod.  Is piracy hurting Itunes sales....?  Or is it pushing more Ipods.

Studies seem to show it's the latter.

You don't pirate games you don't want to play. Obviously these people want to play these games, they are just taking the free and easy option. In time, most of these people would have bought one anyway, I believe.

 

Do you buy every game you want to play?  What if Uncharted 2 cost $400?

Do you buy really expensive food you would like to eat whenever you would want to eat it?  Or do you say "You know... that tastes good but it's too expensive."

That's why I said "in time". They may have not been able to buy it right away, but eventually as the software comes, many would buy it or save up and buy it. This isn't some third world country where games cost $150 on $900 consoles forcing people to start illegally downloading. In the main markets, PSP and most games are affordable.

 

You don't get it.  To some people.  Paying 40 dollars for a game is like paying 400.  Because it's not worth it to them.

These are the people who pirate mostly according to current economic theory.

I mean you've never done something you've enjoyed that you wouldn't pay for? Really?  Nothing?

 

 



Kasz216 on 21 April 2009
rover said:
"Do you buy every game you want to play? What if Uncharted 2 cost $400?"

Boy, that's some sound logic.

It is.  When you take into account value is relative.  To a lot of people... games are fun... but you may as well be asking to pay 400 when you pay 40.

I'd buy a game for 60 bucks.  My dad would never buy a videogame... even if he found it fun because he thinks its a waste of money.

Furthermore... if a game got universally bad reviews... and your friend owned it?  Wouldn't you play it just to see?  Or if it was a game you weren't really interested in but someone else liked... etc?



non-gravity on 21 April 2009

I know of noone that buys ds games and I know of only one who has bought psp games. (



Aj_habfan on 21 April 2009
Kasz216 said:
Aj_habfan said:
Kasz216 said:
Aj_habfan said:
Kasz216 said:

I disagree.... I think piracy has created a huge chunk of PSPs sold.

Without piracy... these PSPs just wouldn't of sold.


It's like the Ipod.  Is piracy hurting Itunes sales....?  Or is it pushing more Ipods.

Studies seem to show it's the latter.

You don't pirate games you don't want to play. Obviously these people want to play these games, they are just taking the free and easy option. In time, most of these people would have bought one anyway, I believe.

 

Do you buy every game you want to play?  What if Uncharted 2 cost $400?

Do you buy really expensive food you would like to eat whenever you would want to eat it?  Or do you say "You know... that tastes good but it's too expensive."

That's why I said "in time". They may have not been able to buy it right away, but eventually as the software comes, many would buy it or save up and buy it. This isn't some third world country where games cost $150 on $900 consoles forcing people to start illegally downloading. In the main markets, PSP and most games are affordable.

 

You don't get it.  To some people.  Paying 40 dollars for a game is like paying 400.  Because it's not worth it to them.

These are the people who pirate mostly according to current economic theory.

I mean you've never done something you've enjoyed that you wouldn't pay for? Really?  Nothing?

 

Don't agree with that at all. They want to play the games. They've made a $200 investment to play the games. I'm sure they would be willing to pay $20 if it was the only option.

I used to pirate PSP games. My cousin did it for me, easy stuff. I would have bought them, but why bother when I could get them for free?

 



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Kasz216 on 21 April 2009
Aj_habfan said:
Kasz216 said:
Aj_habfan said:
Kasz216 said:
Aj_habfan said:
Kasz216 said:

I disagree.... I think piracy has created a huge chunk of PSPs sold.

Without piracy... these PSPs just wouldn't of sold.


It's like the Ipod.  Is piracy hurting Itunes sales....?  Or is it pushing more Ipods.

Studies seem to show it's the latter.

You don't pirate games you don't want to play. Obviously these people want to play these games, they are just taking the free and easy option. In time, most of these people would have bought one anyway, I believe.

 

Do you buy every game you want to play?  What if Uncharted 2 cost $400?

Do you buy really expensive food you would like to eat whenever you would want to eat it?  Or do you say "You know... that tastes good but it's too expensive."

That's why I said "in time". They may have not been able to buy it right away, but eventually as the software comes, many would buy it or save up and buy it. This isn't some third world country where games cost $150 on $900 consoles forcing people to start illegally downloading. In the main markets, PSP and most games are affordable.

 

You don't get it.  To some people.  Paying 40 dollars for a game is like paying 400.  Because it's not worth it to them.

These are the people who pirate mostly according to current economic theory.

I mean you've never done something you've enjoyed that you wouldn't pay for? Really?  Nothing?

 

Don't agree with that at all. They want to play the games. They've made a $200 investment to play the games. I'm sure they would be willing to pay $20 if it was the only option.

I used to pirate PSP games. My cousin did it for me, easy stuff. I would have bought them, but why bother when I could get them for free?

 

Because most people aren't sociopaths? 

Also... you can disagree... but people made that 200 dollar investment because the games were free.

I mean you can disgree... but your disagreement is going against expert opinion.

It would be like saying you disagree with how psychologists treat people.



Aj_habfan on 21 April 2009
Kasz216 said:
Aj_habfan said:
Kasz216 said:
Aj_habfan said:
Kasz216 said:
Aj_habfan said:
Kasz216 said:

I disagree.... I think piracy has created a huge chunk of PSPs sold.

Without piracy... these PSPs just wouldn't of sold.


It's like the Ipod.  Is piracy hurting Itunes sales....?  Or is it pushing more Ipods.

Studies seem to show it's the latter.

You don't pirate games you don't want to play. Obviously these people want to play these games, they are just taking the free and easy option. In time, most of these people would have bought one anyway, I believe.

 

Do you buy every game you want to play?  What if Uncharted 2 cost $400?

Do you buy really expensive food you would like to eat whenever you would want to eat it?  Or do you say "You know... that tastes good but it's too expensive."

That's why I said "in time". They may have not been able to buy it right away, but eventually as the software comes, many would buy it or save up and buy it. This isn't some third world country where games cost $150 on $900 consoles forcing people to start illegally downloading. In the main markets, PSP and most games are affordable.

 

You don't get it.  To some people.  Paying 40 dollars for a game is like paying 400.  Because it's not worth it to them.

These are the people who pirate mostly according to current economic theory.

I mean you've never done something you've enjoyed that you wouldn't pay for? Really?  Nothing?

 

Don't agree with that at all. They want to play the games. They've made a $200 investment to play the games. I'm sure they would be willing to pay $20 if it was the only option.

I used to pirate PSP games. My cousin did it for me, easy stuff. I would have bought them, but why bother when I could get them for free?

 

Because most people aren't sociopaths? 

Also... you can disagree... but people made that 200 dollar investment because the games were free.

I mean you can disgree... but your disagreement is going against expert opinion.

No, just yours =)

Most people aren't sociopaths? What is meant by that?

 



Millennium on 21 April 2009

Game thieves probably have taken a significant chunk out of PSP game sales, but the problem is that no one can prove it: there simply isn't any way to measure this sort of thing.



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demonluo on 21 April 2009

-__- just look at ps3 hardware & software sale(no piracy & ranked last in this generation) & then look at wii(lot of piracy & ranked 1st in this generation), it should tell u that if not for piracy the psp sale will be 21.62M instead of 46.64M...



Aj_habfan on 21 April 2009
demonluo said:
-__- just look at ps3 hardware & software sale(no piracy & ranked last in this generation) & then look at wii(lot of piracy & ranked 1st in this generation), it should tell u that if not for piracy the psp sale will be 21.62M instead of 46.64M...

Oh god, where to begin?

First of all, you think PS3 and Wii difference is based on piracy? Laughable. There are at least 10 more important reasons then that. Price? Motion controls? Target markets? Any of that?

Next, how would be PSP be at 21.62? PSP was released in 2005, PS3 2007. Unless you are saying even people that don't pirate wouldn't buy one because you can't pirate games.

Your main point is like Kasz's and is part true, but your logic is off.