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Jeronimo66 on 13 April 2009

Well first of all I am not trolling, my response is directly related to this thread, 

second no one here said selling 50K more after 31 days being half priced in it's strongest territory is a good thing, all I have said is the 360 still outsold the PS3.

thirdly I remember 360 having shortages after holiday 2007 in america, and Microsoft came out and said it, but as usual people claimed bull, and yet one of my friends was shopping around for a 360 at that time here in new york city and all he could find were ARCADES, I then called my local gamestop here in queens, new york city and they said they were none left and we had to wait for the next shipment.

After tales of vesperia and infinite undiscovery came out 360 sales got a boost then the 360 started having shortages in Japan, microsoft once again came out and said they were having shortages in Japan, people again claimed bull, 360 sales took a huge dip, retailers in Japan were also reported to have low 360 numbers people still claimed bull, then some people started celebrating the low sales of the 360 for that week, microsoft said they were sending another batch to Japan I knew microsoft was happy to make that anouncement, the next week sales shot up again, even more so because of the price cut.

I believe microsoft stopped making anouncements for shortages because even if they do people will claim bull, 360 sales dropped to 4000 units 2 weeks ago I thought it was hardware shortages as soon as I saw it, some people once again started celebrating, hoping 360 sales would stay that way, this past week sales practically doubled, I believe 360 sold 7500 last week.

The past is the reason why I believe 360 is having shortages, Microsoft sold 8 million 360s worldwide between the month of september 2008 and february 2009, due to the price cut, thats 8 million consoles in 6 months, I am thinking maybe just maybe they are having shortages now in the month of march, but hey call me a crazy fanboy, whatever.



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dbot on 13 April 2009
Dark Chaos said:
dbot said:

It is because of the PS2 that the PS3 is the first console ever to sell over 21 million units at a $400 price point.  Marketshare is irrelevant this generation, the Wii has already won it.  What has Sony lost other than marketshare?  They still get all of the third party games that the 360 has, in fact they are getting some third party exclusives, and they still publish outstanding first party titles.  So the 360 sells 50k more than the PS3 in March, big deal.  MS generated half the console revenues than the PS3.  In 2009 the 360 fans can enjoy their minor marketshare victories, and the PS3 fans will enjoy an outstanding gaming experience.  That doesn't sound like an epic fail to me.

 

LOL.

How about all its profit from the PS2, PSP. How about all its third party exclusives. Thats like saying Intel goes from dominating AMD with 70% market share to 20% marketshare+ losing tons of money Or IPOD going from 70% marketshare to 20% and losing tons of money. Sadly IPod makes money while PS3 loses. How is that not a fail???

So Dreamcast, GC and Xbox owners enjoyed their gaming experience too. And how is outselling your competition by over 8million Minor??

Atleast you admit that the only reason the PS3 could sell so much is due to the PS1/2 and its Playstation brand recognition.

 

 

Of course the success of the PS3 is directly related to the PS2/PS1, and the PS4 will be successful because of the PS3.  The third party exclusives were never Sony's to begin with, the only reason they were "exclusive" was because the PS2 had a dominant market position.  What do you think MS sacrificed to increase their marketshare marginally?  They closed game studios, and really haven't been able to buy any major exclusives.  The money that they could have spent on the 2009 game library funded the price cut.

If you want to talk about losses, let's talk about the 20 billion dollars the EDD has lost since its inception in 2005.  That doesn't even take into account the 9 billion the original Xbox loss.  MS has lost 30 billion dollars on a product that can barely outsell a competitor that is twice the price.

 



Thanks for the input, Jeff.

 

 

Max King of the Wild on 13 April 2009

why the fuck did you copy and paste your response that ive already shot down ?

spamming is a bannable offense



Slimebeast on 13 April 2009

I'm thinking shortages too. It's the only logical reason why the X360 is letting the PS3 catch up a lil.



Jeronimo66 on 13 April 2009
dbot said:
Dark Chaos said:
dbot said:

It is because of the PS2 that the PS3 is the first console ever to sell over 21 million units at a $400 price point.  Marketshare is irrelevant this generation, the Wii has already won it.  What has Sony lost other than marketshare?  They still get all of the third party games that the 360 has, in fact they are getting some third party exclusives, and they still publish outstanding first party titles.  So the 360 sells 50k more than the PS3 in March, big deal.  MS generated half the console revenues than the PS3.  In 2009 the 360 fans can enjoy their minor marketshare victories, and the PS3 fans will enjoy an outstanding gaming experience.  That doesn't sound like an epic fail to me.

 

LOL.

How about all its profit from the PS2, PSP. How about all its third party exclusives. Thats like saying Intel goes from dominating AMD with 70% market share to 20% marketshare+ losing tons of money Or IPOD going from 70% marketshare to 20% and losing tons of money. Sadly IPod makes money while PS3 loses. How is that not a fail???

So Dreamcast, GC and Xbox owners enjoyed their gaming experience too. And how is outselling your competition by over 8million Minor??

Atleast you admit that the only reason the PS3 could sell so much is due to the PS1/2 and its Playstation brand recognition.

 

 

Of course the success of the PS3 is directly related to the PS2/PS1, and the PS4 will be successful because of the PS3.  The third party exclusives were never Sony's to begin with, the only reason they were "exclusive" was because the PS2 had a dominant market position.  What do you think MS sacrificed to increase their marketshare marginally?  They closed game studios, and really haven't been able to buy any major exclusives.  The money that they could have spent on the 2009 game library funded the price cut.

If you want to talk about losses, let's talk about the 20 billion dollars the EDD has lost since its inception in 2005.  That doesn't even take into account the 9 billion the original Xbox loss.  MS has lost 30 billion dollars on a product that can barely outsell a competitor that is twice the price.

 

Wow you say so much without any evidence to back it up, from the news I heard on the internet Microsoft lost 6 billion on the origional xbox, and have lost 1 billion on xbox 360 due to RROD,  thats 7 billion not the 30 billion you claim, I will even say 8 billion for making the 360 and marketing, but 30 billion, LOL.

 



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leo-j on 13 April 2009

I think it would be nice if PS3 did manage around 350,000 in NPD, and if 360 did manage 400,000, they would both be up from last year, meaning healthy sales for everyone.



 

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Jeronimo66 on 13 April 2009
Max King of the Wild said:
why the fuck did you copy and paste your response that ive already shot down ?

spamming is a bannable offense

I wouldn't call posting something twice spamming, and I am not sure but I think cursing at people on message boards is also bannable.

 



Max King of the Wild on 13 April 2009
dbot said:
Dark Chaos said:
dbot said:

It is because of the PS2 that the PS3 is the first console ever to sell over 21 million units at a $400 price point.  Marketshare is irrelevant this generation, the Wii has already won it.  What has Sony lost other than marketshare?  They still get all of the third party games that the 360 has, in fact they are getting some third party exclusives, and they still publish outstanding first party titles.  So the 360 sells 50k more than the PS3 in March, big deal.  MS generated half the console revenues than the PS3.  In 2009 the 360 fans can enjoy their minor marketshare victories, and the PS3 fans will enjoy an outstanding gaming experience.  That doesn't sound like an epic fail to me.

 

LOL.

How about all its profit from the PS2, PSP. How about all its third party exclusives. Thats like saying Intel goes from dominating AMD with 70% market share to 20% marketshare+ losing tons of money Or IPOD going from 70% marketshare to 20% and losing tons of money. Sadly IPod makes money while PS3 loses. How is that not a fail???

So Dreamcast, GC and Xbox owners enjoyed their gaming experience too. And how is outselling your competition by over 8million Minor??

Atleast you admit that the only reason the PS3 could sell so much is due to the PS1/2 and its Playstation brand recognition.

 

 

Of course the success of the PS3 is directly related to the PS2/PS1, and the PS4 will be successful because of the PS3.  The third party exclusives were never Sony's to begin with, the only reason they were "exclusive" was because the PS2 had a dominant market position.  What do you think MS sacrificed to increase their marketshare marginally?  They closed game studios, and really haven't been able to buy any major exclusives.  The money that they could have spent on the 2009 game library funded the price cut.

If you want to talk about losses, let's talk about the 20 billion dollars the EDD has lost since its inception in 2005.  That doesn't even take into account the 9 billion the original Xbox loss.  MS has lost 30 billion dollars on a product that can barely outsell a competitor that is twice the price.

 


just like the wiis sucess is related to nintendo products of the past same with 360. only consoles that havent had help with previous gens are the nes and ps1



Max King of the Wild on 13 April 2009
Jeronimo66 said:
dbot said:
Dark Chaos said:
dbot said:

It is because of the PS2 that the PS3 is the first console ever to sell over 21 million units at a $400 price point.  Marketshare is irrelevant this generation, the Wii has already won it.  What has Sony lost other than marketshare?  They still get all of the third party games that the 360 has, in fact they are getting some third party exclusives, and they still publish outstanding first party titles.  So the 360 sells 50k more than the PS3 in March, big deal.  MS generated half the console revenues than the PS3.  In 2009 the 360 fans can enjoy their minor marketshare victories, and the PS3 fans will enjoy an outstanding gaming experience.  That doesn't sound like an epic fail to me.

 

LOL.

How about all its profit from the PS2, PSP. How about all its third party exclusives. Thats like saying Intel goes from dominating AMD with 70% market share to 20% marketshare+ losing tons of money Or IPOD going from 70% marketshare to 20% and losing tons of money. Sadly IPod makes money while PS3 loses. How is that not a fail???

So Dreamcast, GC and Xbox owners enjoyed their gaming experience too. And how is outselling your competition by over 8million Minor??

Atleast you admit that the only reason the PS3 could sell so much is due to the PS1/2 and its Playstation brand recognition.

 

 

Of course the success of the PS3 is directly related to the PS2/PS1, and the PS4 will be successful because of the PS3.  The third party exclusives were never Sony's to begin with, the only reason they were "exclusive" was because the PS2 had a dominant market position.  What do you think MS sacrificed to increase their marketshare marginally?  They closed game studios, and really haven't been able to buy any major exclusives.  The money that they could have spent on the 2009 game library funded the price cut.

If you want to talk about losses, let's talk about the 20 billion dollars the EDD has lost since its inception in 2005.  That doesn't even take into account the 9 billion the original Xbox loss.  MS has lost 30 billion dollars on a product that can barely outsell a competitor that is twice the price.

 

Wow you say so much without any evidence to back it up, from the news I heard on the internet Microsoft lost 6 billion on the origional xbox, and have lost 1 billion on xbox 360 due to RROD,  thats 7 billion not the 30 billion you claim, I will even say 8 billion for making the 360 and marketing, but 30 billion, LOL.

 


uh... your the one claiming shortages wheres your evidence



outlawauron on 13 April 2009
Jeronimo66 said:
And like I posted in other threads the reason I think the Gap was closed last month was because the 360 is having hardware shortages worldwide.

I know some people won't want to hear that but that is a strong possibility.

lol! You actually believe that!



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