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786_ali on 13 April 2009
Slimebeast said:
highwaystar101 said:
Extra terrestrials, since they almost exist because the universe is so vast and the variables of lifeforms are immense.

Let's face it life after death is nowhere near as likely, it's just a notion that was used to scare religious people back in the dark ages into giving their money away and acting under control.

 

 U just dismiss religion like that? U know it's very hard to find any tribe or civilisation in human history that wasn't spiritual or religious. The idea about an afterlife is hardly limited to just a bunch of corrupt medieval priests.

I don't want to get into a religious war/discussion but Slimebeast is right. Every civilisation since the first man has had a religion, you can't just dismiss it like that.

I'm 100% sure that both exist

 



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highwaystar101 on 13 April 2009
Slimebeast said:
highwaystar101 said:
Extra terrestrials, since they almost exist because the universe is so vast and the variables of lifeforms are immense.

Let's face it life after death is nowhere near as likely, it's just a notion that was used to scare religious people back in the dark ages into giving their money away and acting under control.

U just dismiss religion like that? U know it's very hard to find any tribe or civilisation in human history that wasn't spiritual or religious. The idea about an afterlife is hardly limited to just a bunch of corrupt medieval priests.

OK, it has been done many times in many religions much to the same effect. But a lot of people know that Hell was made up to scare people into behavng and such. I imagine that the whole notion of heaven or hell in any religion was made up so that people believed that if they lived immorally they would still suffer the consequences after death.

I'm not denying the fact that an afterlife exists, I'm just saying that it is unlikely IMO because history has shown people have a habit creating different versions of the afterlife to get what they want. Hell* being one example.

If I somebody gave solid evidence of an afterlife or showed some solid examples, then perhaps I would see it as more liekly than extra terrestrials, but for now ET wins in my book.

(*not heaven, that originally in the bible)



saimcheeda on 13 April 2009

after death



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Slimebeast on 13 April 2009
highwaystar101 said:
Slimebeast said:
highwaystar101 said:
Extra terrestrials, since they almost exist because the universe is so vast and the variables of lifeforms are immense.

Let's face it life after death is nowhere near as likely, it's just a notion that was used to scare religious people back in the dark ages into giving their money away and acting under control.

 

U just dismiss religion like that? U know it's very hard to find any tribe or civilisation in human history that wasn't spiritual or religious. The idea about an afterlife is hardly limited to just a bunch of corrupt medieval priests.

OK, it has been done many times in many religions much to the same effect. But a lot of people know that Hell was made up to scare people into behavng and such. I imagine that the whole notion of heaven or hell in any religion was made up so that people believed that if they lived immorally they would still suffer the consequences after death.

 

M8, u can accuse Christianity for scaring people with punishment after death, and thereby trying to control people, but you can't generlize that assumption to all religions. It seems u just assume stuff out of ignorance. Religion and the idea of an afterlife ain't just there invented as some form of a mind control method, it's a lot deeper and universal than that.

 



CAL4M1TY on 13 April 2009

I'm going to say aliens.

For one, it'd be much easier (relatively) to prove then life after death.



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TheRealMafoo on 13 April 2009
786_ali said:

Every civilisation since the first man has had a religion, you can't just dismiss it like that.

I'm 100% sure that both exist

 

Funny, this is one of the reasons I think religion is false. If everyone believes in it, and everyone believes something different, then it's more likely that humans are driven to believe in something, then it is that any of it's actually true.

 



786_ali on 13 April 2009
highwaystar101 said:
Slimebeast said:
highwaystar101 said:
Extra terrestrials, since they almost exist because the universe is so vast and the variables of lifeforms are immense.

Let's face it life after death is nowhere near as likely, it's just a notion that was used to scare religious people back in the dark ages into giving their money away and acting under control.

 

U just dismiss religion like that? U know it's very hard to find any tribe or civilisation in human history that wasn't spiritual or religious. The idea about an afterlife is hardly limited to just a bunch of corrupt medieval priests.

OK, it has been done many times in many religions much to the same effect. But a lot of people know that Hell was made up to scare people into behavng and such. I imagine that the whole notion of heaven or hell in any religion was made up so that people believed that if they lived immorally they would still suffer the consequences after death.

I'm not denying the fact that an afterlife exists, I'm just saying that it is unlikely IMO because history has shown people have a habit creating different versions of the afterlife to get what they want. Hell* being one example.

If I somebody gave solid evidence of an afterlife or showed some solid examples, then perhaps I would see it as more liekly than extra terrestrials, but for now ET wins in my book.

(*not heaven, that originally in the bible)

Made up? What are you talking about? The Q'uran states that there is heaven and hell, and I'm sure that the Bible does the same. If you are going to tread this path and dimiss all religion as 'made up' then I expect you to come in for some flak



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puffy on 13 April 2009
TheRealMafoo said:
786_ali said:

Every civilisation since the first man has had a religion, you can't just dismiss it like that.

I'm 100% sure that both exist

 

Funny, this is one of the reasons I think religion is false. If everyone believes in it, and everyone believes something different, then it's more likely that humans are driven to believe in something, then it is that any of it's actually true.

 


This

 

786_ali on 13 April 2009
puffy said:
TheRealMafoo said:
786_ali said:

Every civilisation since the first man has had a religion, you can't just dismiss it like that.

I'm 100% sure that both exist

 

Funny, this is one of the reasons I think religion is false. If everyone believes in it, and everyone believes something different, then it's more likely that humans are driven to believe in something, then it is that any of it's actually true.

 

 

This

I'm not going to turn this into a religion-preaching thread, so I won't comment on your ignorance and false-logic

 



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highwaystar101 on 13 April 2009
786_ali said:
highwaystar101 said:

OK, it has been done many times in many religions much to the same effect. But a lot of people know that Hell was made up to scare people into behavng and such. I imagine that the whole notion of heaven or hell in any religion was made up so that people believed that if they lived immorally they would still suffer the consequences after death.

I'm not denying the fact that an afterlife exists, I'm just saying that it is unlikely IMO because history has shown people have a habit creating different versions of the afterlife to get what they want. Hell* being one example.

If I somebody gave solid evidence of an afterlife or showed some solid examples, then perhaps I would see it as more liekly than extra terrestrials, but for now ET wins in my book.

(*not heaven, that originally in the bible)

Made up? What are you talking about? The Q'uran states that there is heaven and hell, and I'm sure that the Bible does the same. If you are going to tread this path and dimiss all religion as 'made up' then I expect you to come in for some flak

OK, I'm not going to get in a heavy debate about this as I have just come back from a ban lol.

But I think you misinterpreted how I used made up. I was saying that in many cases it has been made up, not all cases. I know that in the qu'ran and the old testament Heaven and Hell are clearly stated as existing. But I know that in the new testament, whilst hell was originally written in, many hundreds of years ago some people changed it to put more emphasis on hell because it benefitted them... That is making something up in my opinion.

On a side note in general to the thread. Theoretically only ONE version of an afterlife can exist at maximum. But thousands of varitaions exist, so at some point the vast majority have incorrect. I grant that one afterlife could exist, but logically not all of them can.