@ shams Good! Debating him is better than blocking him.

First off. Sony is teaching their baby to walk right now. Wait till they give it a stick or something here in a year or two. Not gonna compare it to other consoles. But Sony released a very sound, and immature machine. (the hardware is brand new, and nothing supports it yet, so it needs alot of work to work properly) Sony released it with immature software, and firmware. Sony is working rapidly to change that. And I would say they are doing a very good job.

That could be said about any new system. Everything is new so it takes time to work on. Happened before, gonna happen again.

Let me really dumb this down to your level. june gonna come and ill watch. im not even gonna notice RAYTRACING or RAYCASTING in ps3 games because i dont know what the fuck they are nor do i care.

Washimul, I don't expect you to actually understand this but I'm bored so what the hell. Maybe you should read the links you post:

This is not a single PS3 rendering to the screen. This is a Cell processor working as a job manager for a render farm which is handling the rendering. Again this is assuming the PS3's are doing nothing but acting as a render farm. No game running just rendering a static scene and it would still take 15 of them. You are using this 68 minute Max render time without any understanding of the context of that number. Max's default scanline renderer is very slow. It isn't optimized to run on any specific hardware and has to be compatible with every possible shader structure that an artist throws at it. There are plug-in renderers for Max that can massively reduce render time if you are willing to give up image quality options and purchase specific CPU hardware, which is exactly what Barry's team are doing with the PS3. In addition to not understanding the article it would be a good idea to understand the terms you are using. Raycasting isn't something to be boasting about. Wolf3D released back in '92 on the PC was a raycasting engine. Raycasting and Raytracing are not synonymous. If you really are interesting in learning and not pimping a specific console then start by reading these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raycasting http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_tracing

What a hell of a luck I´m not alone Honestly washimul not a single PS3 will sell because of raytracing. Does the PSP sell better than the DS because of it´s better graphics? IF the PS3 starts to sell good then it is because of games like Final Fantasy and Metal Gear Solid - not because of raytracing.

even if the raytracing is done on a single CELL it wont take more than 10 secs. shut up you ****** .......u wannna teach me something......just shut up.. I know a lot about CELL...........did u even read the links i provided. CELL outguns just about anything in heavy computational taks including FFT, TRE, CYPTOGRAPHY, STENCIL and LINEAR MATRIX MULTIPLICATION etc. first you have to know before posting. I know more than your entire ****** *****. just shut up and read the articles on CELL............produced not by illiterates like you but IBM, MC, UC etc. THESE BENCHMARKS reveal that CELL is around 30x more powerful than the high end pc cores available in the market. However in heavy computational tasks CELL clearly smash teh competitors by Bigger margins. http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~samw/projects/cell/LBLTalk.pdf http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~samw/projects/cell/EDGE06_abstract.pdf CELL murders even the X1E superscalar !!! ABOVE so no need to mention the pc cores. http://cag.csail.mit.edu/crg/papers/eichenberger05cell.pdf .......this is from MIT. NOTE: - MIT states that with proper compiler the performance of CELL could be boosted by 6--7x. although i doubt you wd understand anything!!!! http://www.mc.com/literature/literature_files/CellPerfAndProg-3Nov06.pdf http://www.mc.com/literature/literature_files/Cell-Perf-Simple.pdf .................a single SPE outguns intel EMT 3.6 by massive margins . The article is a little old . But even as of today if you compare quad-core with CELL +optimizers( iRT +octopilers etc).............u wd still have a magnitude of 30x. MEATHANDS u havent been reading any info i provided.NO i dont want to listen to your gar*** quotes.undefined CELL beats 7800gtx by 6:1 http://gametomorrow.com/blog/index.php/2005/11/30/gpus-vs-cell/ imagine this with iRT. the 256 gflops take into account the performance in HEAVY COMPUTATIONAL task. In AI, GI (less intrinsic algorithms) CELL alone would do 2 TF CELL alone can do raytracing heres the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lr-R4bUZIQw ....................look at the photorealistic landscapes.......have you ever seen anything like that on any game released till date. NO u wd need 100 xenons to achieve that...lol so just wait for some time.............and witness the CELL power!!!! BY june we would have a debate over this. i f you want to argue any farther then you wd have to bring concrete proofs with Benchmarks.

Ban Him Now!!! OMG he will never learn!!