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SmokedHostage said:
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I like prepromotes.. especially Karel. Karel >>> Guy.

You best check yourself before you wreck yourself



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Guy is cool and all but noone destroys the Sword Saint.



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Khuutra said:
SmokedHostage said:
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I like prepromotes.. especially Karel. Karel >>> Guy.

You best check yourself before you wreck yourself

Yeah, that's a crazy position. 

Karel's strengths vs Guy:  STR, DEF, and RES.

Guy's strengths vs Karel:  HP, SKL, SPD, and LCK.


HP is funny.  Karel has like 40 HP when Guy has around 53.  Guy owns so much.



Words Of Wisdom said:
Khuutra said:
SmokedHostage said:
^^

I like prepromotes.. especially Karel. Karel >>> Guy.

You best check yourself before you wreck yourself

Yeah, that's a crazy position. 

Karel's strengths vs Guy:  STR, DEF, and RES.

Guy's strengths vs Karel:  HP, SKL, SPD, and LCK.


HP is funny.  Karel has like 40 HP when Guy has around 53.  Guy owns so much.

I must agree with you again.  I find the most important stats for the swordsmen being SKL, SPD and LCK with HP being an added bonus.  Guy does own in comparison.

Although, like most FE games, you can often choose your favorite character and still beat the game.

 



I've olny played the firts FE on the GBA, i was ok, a hard one, but not impossible.



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largedarryl said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
Khuutra said:
SmokedHostage said:
^^

I like prepromotes.. especially Karel. Karel >>> Guy.

You best check yourself before you wreck yourself

Yeah, that's a crazy position. 

Karel's strengths vs Guy:  STR, DEF, and RES.

Guy's strengths vs Karel:  HP, SKL, SPD, and LCK.


HP is funny.  Karel has like 40 HP when Guy has around 53.  Guy owns so much.

I must agree with you again.  I find the most important stats for the swordsmen being SKL, SPD and LCK with HP being an added bonus.  Guy does own in comparison.

Although, like most FE games, you can often choose your favorite character and still beat the game.

I really want to play up STR but since I use Killing Edges as much as possible, it's more a matter of getting the critical than it is the base damage being a point or two higher.  Usually your attacks fall into 2 categories:  Death and poke.  Enemies with low defense die, enemies with high defense get tickled.

As for the last part, in older Fire Emblems this is less true than newer ones.  I think the addition of BEXP to PoR and RD was excellent and gives you a change to let those under-leveled units shine.  Adding a 3rd tier in RD also allowed pre-promotes (2) to be useful instead of handicapped.

 



Words Of Wisdom said:
Khuutra said:
SmokedHostage said:
^^

I like prepromotes.. especially Karel. Karel >>> Guy.

You best check yourself before you wreck yourself

Yeah, that's a crazy position.

Karel's strengths vs Guy:  STR, DEF, and RES.

Guy's strengths vs Karel:  HP, SKL, SPD, and LCK.


HP is funny.  Karel has like 40 HP when Guy has around 53.  Guy owns so much.

You sure about that?

Karel starts as a level 8 SM.

Average stats (at that time).

31hp

16str

23skill

20 speed

15 luck

13 def

12 res

 

Guy's average stats (as Lv 8 SM)

44.75hp

15.8str

23.5skill

28.5 speed

16.25 luck

10.75 def

13.25 res

 

 At that time, Guy wins in

Hp (by 13.75)

Speed (by 8.5)

Luck (by 1.25)

Res (by 1.25)

 

Karel wins

Def by 1.25

 

They tie

Str (+.2 Karel)

Skill (+.5 Guy)

 

Then Guy has better growth rates.

5% more HP

Even on Str

Even on skill

+20% speed

+ 15% luck

+5% def

+10% res

 

So that's on average

0.6 more health

2.4 more speed

1.8 more luck

0.6 more def

1.2 more res

 



http://www.vgchartz.com/games/userreviewdisp.php?id=261

That is VGChartz LONGEST review. And it's NOT Cute Kitten DS

lolz.  I notice you specifically avoided comparing them both at 20/20 so I'll do it.

Guy Karel
HP 53 39.4
STR 18.8 19.6
SKL 29 29
SPD 30 26
LCK 21.2 18.6
DEF 12.4 14.2
RES 10 13.8

Guy wins:  HP, SPD, LCK
Tie:  SKL
Karel wins:  STR, DEF, RES

+13-14 average HP means that whatever advantage Karel has in DEF/RES is totally overshadowed by Guy's ability to take 1 extra hit.

All that leaves Karel with is an average of 1 point more STR.  Meanwhile Guy is humming along with 2 points more LCK and 4 points more SPD.  Let's also note that Guy is maxing speed (30) at 20/16 while Karel has a meager 24 SPD at 20/16.

I'm sorry but Karel is utterly obliterated by Guy.



I think both of you are saying that Guy is better than Karel.



How do you get that res for Guy?

Intial stats: 3

Growth rate: 25%

37 levels

= 9.25 in growth.

+ 1 when promoting.

Equals 13.25 res

 

Where's your 10 from?

 

Essentially, I'm saying that it's withing +/- 1, it's a tie. You're calling it a victory, and we disagree on the res.

That's the entire difference.

 

If you check the stats, mine are actually more pro Guy than yours.



http://www.vgchartz.com/games/userreviewdisp.php?id=261

That is VGChartz LONGEST review. And it's NOT Cute Kitten DS