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Bullet100000 on 07 April 2009

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Darc Requiem on 07 April 2009
Cthulhu said:
NJ5 said:
Cthulhu said:
Darc Requiem said:

Sony needs to shut up and get their house in order. I've never seen a last place company to talk so much smack. They need to buckle down, figure out to get the PS3 price down, and pray that can somehow catch Microsoft for second place. Never have a seen so many different people from one company open their mouth and insert their foot so often. The phrases "talk is cheap" and "actions speak louder than words" are words Sony should consider.

 

I judge a company from the games they offer. 1rt 2nd or 3rd places doesnt matter. All i want is games.

Btw Sony's house is in order

What do you mean by "Sony's house in order"?

Are you completely ignoring the fact that their gaming division hasn't been consistently profitable since before the PS3 launched, and that the whole of Sony is now having losses too?

Sony has already said they'll fundamentally restructure the gaming business for profitability. This means they don't think the house is in order, and it may also mean that this quote from Mr. Koller won't be valid for long.

 

The games keep coming, thats all i care

 

That's the thing. If they keep mismanaging their game platforms the games won't keep coming. They botched the PS3. They ignored the PSP for 18 months inspite of it's solid sales. Sony's business decisions as for late have been one cluster fuck after another. They need to get their house in order. I'm not a fan of Sony but I don't want them to go belly up because they can't get out of their own way.

I want Sony sharp and competitive so both Nintendo and MS have to stay on their toes. They haven't been for this entire generation. They need stop worrying about Microsoft's and Nintendo's platforms and worry about their own. Their constant shift in focus shows a real lack of overall direction. Nintendo and MS have clear business plans. Sony keeps shifting in the wind and it's to their detriment.



bardicverse on 07 April 2009

wow this guy should be fired, he keeps making dumb statements that are making Sony look worse



leatherhat on 07 April 2009
Signalstar said:
http://www.gamepro.com/article/news/166168/report-sony-was-top-rated-game-publisher-in-2007/ 2008 Metacritic: LittleBigPlanet- 95 GOW Chains of Olympus-91 Wipeout HD- 87 Resistance 2-87 Patapon-86 MLB 08 The Show-85 Pixeljunk Monsters-83 Motorstorm Pacific Rift-82 Hot Shots Gold Open Tee 2-82 Wipeout Pulse- 82 Hot Shots Golf Out of Bounds-81 Echochrome-81 Buzz Quiz TV-80 Pixeljunk Eden-80 Gran Turismo 5 Prologue-80 Siren Blood Curse-78 Singstar Queen-78 Ratchet and Clank QFB-76 NBA 09- 63 Socom Confrontation-63 2009 so far: Killzone 2- 92 MLB 09 The Show- 90 Locoroco 2- 86 Resistance Retribution- 82 That wins over every other publisher.

Proof of quality and quantity

@bardicverse

 

Theres nothing stupid about facts, sony has bigger first party studio then nintendo and MS combined

 



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Squilliam on 07 April 2009
leatherhat said:
Signalstar said:
http://www.gamepro.com/article/news/166168/report-sony-was-top-rated-game-publisher-in-2007/ 2008 Metacritic: LittleBigPlanet- 95 GOW Chains of Olympus-91 Wipeout HD- 87 Resistance 2-87 Patapon-86 MLB 08 The Show-85 Pixeljunk Monsters-83 Motorstorm Pacific Rift-82 Hot Shots Gold Open Tee 2-82 Wipeout Pulse- 82 Hot Shots Golf Out of Bounds-81 Echochrome-81 Buzz Quiz TV-80 Pixeljunk Eden-80 Gran Turismo 5 Prologue-80 Siren Blood Curse-78 Singstar Queen-78 Ratchet and Clank QFB-76 NBA 09- 63 Socom Confrontation-63 2009 so far: Killzone 2- 92 MLB 09 The Show- 90 Locoroco 2- 86 Resistance Retribution- 82 That wins over every other publisher.

Proof of quality and quantity

@bardicverse

 

Theres nothing stupid about facts, sony has bigger first party studio then nintendo and MS combined

 

It doesn't prove marketability unfortunately.

 



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NJ5 on 07 April 2009
leatherhat said:
Signalstar said:
http://www.gamepro.com/article/news/166168/report-sony-was-top-rated-game-publisher-in-2007/ 2008 Metacritic: LittleBigPlanet- 95 GOW Chains of Olympus-91 Wipeout HD- 87 Resistance 2-87 Patapon-86 MLB 08 The Show-85 Pixeljunk Monsters-83 Motorstorm Pacific Rift-82 Hot Shots Gold Open Tee 2-82 Wipeout Pulse- 82 Hot Shots Golf Out of Bounds-81 Echochrome-81 Buzz Quiz TV-80 Pixeljunk Eden-80 Gran Turismo 5 Prologue-80 Siren Blood Curse-78 Singstar Queen-78 Ratchet and Clank QFB-76 NBA 09- 63 Socom Confrontation-63 2009 so far: Killzone 2- 92 MLB 09 The Show- 90 Locoroco 2- 86 Resistance Retribution- 82 That wins over every other publisher.

Proof of quality and quantity

@bardicverse

 

Theres nothing stupid about facts, sony has bigger first party studio then nintendo and MS combined

 

Actually I would expect a purported proof of quality and quantity to present a comparison with Nintendo and Microsoft combined, but maybe my standards are too high.

(not to mention the problems with judging quality from Metacritic scores)

 



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Signalstar on 07 April 2009

By all means someone can compare to Nintendo and Microsoft if they like. The list should be smaller than Sony's anyway.



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jonnhytesta on 07 April 2009

SONY needs first partys that people buy no matter how crappy the games are like mario, zelda, halo(halo wars cough cough), etc.



HappySqurriel on 07 April 2009
blackstar said:
HappySqurriel said:

With a HD console game taking between 3 and 4 tmes as much work to produce that a similar game on the Wii, and Microsoft's tendancy to pay for development (rather than buy/build developers) I would expect Sony to have a much larger development workforce ...

The real question is which strategy is the most effective?

For the development cost of Killzone 2, Microsoft was able to publish Gears of War and Gears of War 2 ... For the Development cost of Gran Turismo 5, Microsoft was able to publish Project Gotham Racing 3, Forza 2 (and will probably be able to publish another racer before Gran Turismo 5 is released) ... For the cost of those 2 Sony Games Nintendo has (probably) been able to publish Super Mario Galaxy, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Metroid Prime 3, Mario Kart Wii, Wii Fit, and Mario Strikers Charged.

 

 

bolded: link? source? where the hell did u hear that?

they are last , they are broke , whatever the amount of money they pay MS will pay more

ot: SONY FTW!!!

 

Gears of War's development budget was claimed to be $10 Million by Epic and was kept so low primarily due to the use of cheaper Chineese labour, and Gears of War 2 was developed in a similar timeframe by the same development team so I doubt the development cost was drastically higher. Before it was delayed from a holiday 2007 release Killzone 2 had an estimated budget of $50 and was the largest entertainment project in the Netherlands' history ...

Now, the Gran Turismo claim is just my own expectations ... Last I heard Polyphony Digital had more than 50% more employees working on Gran Turismo 5 than Bizarre Creations or Turn 10 Studios, and Gran Turismo 5 has been under development for more than twice as long as either Project Gotham 3 or Forza 2



blackstar on 07 April 2009
HappySqurriel said:
blackstar said:
HappySqurriel said:

With a HD console game taking between 3 and 4 tmes as much work to produce that a similar game on the Wii, and Microsoft's tendancy to pay for development (rather than buy/build developers) I would expect Sony to have a much larger development workforce ...

The real question is which strategy is the most effective?

For the development cost of Killzone 2, Microsoft was able to publish Gears of War and Gears of War 2 ... For the Development cost of Gran Turismo 5, Microsoft was able to publish Project Gotham Racing 3, Forza 2 (and will probably be able to publish another racer before Gran Turismo 5 is released) ... For the cost of those 2 Sony Games Nintendo has (probably) been able to publish Super Mario Galaxy, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Metroid Prime 3, Mario Kart Wii, Wii Fit, and Mario Strikers Charged.

 

 

bolded: link? source? where the hell did u hear that?

they are last , they are broke , whatever the amount of money they pay MS will pay more

ot: SONY FTW!!!

 

Gears of War's development budget was claimed to be $10 Million by Epic and was kept so low primarily due to the use of cheaper Chineese labour, and Gears of War 2 was developed in a similar timeframe by the same development team so I doubt the development cost was drastically higher. Before it was delayed from a holiday 2007 release Killzone 2 had an estimated budget of $50 and was the largest entertainment project in the Netherlands' history ...

Now, the Gran Turismo claim is just my own expectations ... Last I heard Polyphony Digital had more than 50% more employees working on Gran Turismo 5 than Bizarre Creations or Turn 10 Studios, and Gran Turismo 5 has been under development for more than twice as long as either Project Gotham 3 or Forza 2

 

well next time use the words "rumored to be" , "estimated" and "I think".