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786_ali said:

Actually, after looking at data, I think that by the end of this gen the ps3 would've not only outsold the 360 but also the ps1.

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=PS®1=All&cons2=PS3®2=All&cons3=X360®3=All&weeks=156

 

The ps3 was also selling on par with the ps2 till a few weeks ago

 

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=PS®1=All&cons2=PS3®2=All&cons3=PS2®3=All&weeks=156

Quickest about-face in internets history!

And that PS1 graph is Japan only.



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Because its selling really well at $400 and they know as soon as the price drops to $300 it will start to take over.



I don't think ppl are threatened...ppl this days just tend to hate on any related news about ps3 for some reason(except if it's bad) the only news about the ps3 they wanna see are all negatives especially 360 fanboys...like when RE5 and SF4 on ps3 sells better than 360 even with a smaller user base they still don't acknowledge it as a good news for ps3 in fact they refuse to.



I think you got your words mixed up in the title, BT. It should say:

"Why are so many PS3 people threatened by message boards?" Don't believe me? 3 words for you - Sony Defense Force. Take note of the 2nd word there - Defense. People have spent nearly the past 3 years screaming at people, insisting it will win this generation's "console wars".

Ever see Monty Python's Holy Grail? These people have turned into the Black Knight from the movie. Haven't seen it? Well, he pretty much gets his arms and legs chopped off by King Arthur, insisting that he can still beat up King Arthur. This is pretty much what a lot of PS3 fans are like on here. They insist that the PS3 can win even over the Wii still. If that isn't a far fetched claim, I'm afraid I don't know what is.



badgenome said:
786_ali said:

Actually, after looking at data, I think that by the end of this gen the ps3 would've not only outsold the 360 but also the ps1.

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=PS®1=All&cons2=PS3®2=All&cons3=X360®3=All&weeks=156

 

The ps3 was also selling on par with the ps2 till a few weeks ago

 

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=PS®1=All&cons2=PS3®2=All&cons3=PS2®3=All&weeks=156

Quickest about-face in internets history!

And that PS1 graph is Japan only.

 

PS1 includes the whole world, not only japan.

 



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A lot of posts saying illogical this and that, yet they don't change the fact that main series FF games have averaged over 2.54 million copies sold on Playstation consoles in Japan including FFX and FFVII with both selling over 3 million copies (VII rounded up at 4 million copies) in the past and there are two coming exclusively to the PS3 over there which should be good enough to generate the sale of at the very least 1 million new PS3's in the region.

Also all of the Gran Turismo games have also sold well over a million copies in Japan which should generate at the very least 500,000 new sales for the PS3 in Japan. And while Forza Motorsport may be able to cut down on GT5's appeal in the West, Japanese consumers will pick the Japanese game.

Even if no other game causes any PS3 consoles to sell in Japan this year, these two (three games) will still result in the PS3 having sold 4 million consoles in Japan between its launch in 2006 and the end of 2009 (5 to 7 million high end), while the most the 360 can hope to sell in Japan by the end of this year is 250,000 more units while 150,000 seems a much more realistic number for what 360 will sell there between now and 1-1-2010.

Even a difference of 3.5 million would be enough to guarantee far fewer Japanese exclusives coming to the 360 (especially in light of the fact that Japanese consumers won't even buy games in popular Japanese series in significant numbers on the 360 -- both Tales of Vesperia and Star Ocean 4 failed to sell more than 250,000 copies in Japan and were soundly beaten by a rather average new ip from Level 5 in sales there earlier this year) and more coming to PS3 in the future than in the 360's peak year in Japan of 2008.

Even the difference of 2 million units between the two consoles that exists now has demonstrated that it is large enough to shift games that were originally thought to be the 360's biggest exclusives from Japanese developers like Ninja Gaiden II and Tales of Vesperia into being released on PS3 (in more complete forms) thus further mitigating the appeal of the 360 to Japanese consumers.



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786_ali said:
Darc Requiem said:
786_ali said:
Darc Requiem said:
I don't think most user are threatened by the PS3 at all. I do think they are sick of the illogical arguments fanboys list for a PS3 comeback. No matter what kind of facts you list. No matter how much logic you use, fanboys post the same ridiculous arguments over and over again.

By this time last gen, the bulk X-box and Gamecube fans realized that the PS2 was ahead to stay. PS3 fanboys are whole another animal. The PS3 is tracking well behind the PS2 and PS1. Somehow the Sony fanboys don't want to accept that and think the PS3 will still sell 100 million units and sell more than the PS1. Insanity is repeating the same action and expecting a different result. If fanboys would just enjoy there consoles and stop posting ridiculous nonsense, we'd all be better for it.

 

I don't think anyone has said that the PS3 will overtake the ps1. We just get annoyed at Xbots creating thread upon thread about the ps3, proving their insecurity. Everybody is going around claiming that the PS3 is doomed despite it selling almost as much as the 360 at a 2 times higher price.

Oh really?

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=66333&page=4

 

 

Well, thats their opinion. I haven't looked at the comparisons between ps3 and ps1 so I don't have an opinion on the matter. But if you think that's incredulous then what about the xbots who say that the 360 has a better 2009 lineup than ps3? What about those who say that the 360 gives better value? What about those who celebrate everywhere on the forums after the 360 outsells the ps3 by a mere 29k, despite the ps3 being twice the price?

 

It's their opinion. They are entitled to it, whether you agree with it or not. Arguing over things so subjective is rather pointless. This isn't like comparing the sales rate of the PS3 to the PS2 or PS2, 360 to the X-box, or Wii to the Gamecube. Those comparison's rely on hard numbers.



BTFeather55 said:

A lot of posts saying illogical this and that, yet they don't change the fact that main series FF games have averaged over 2.54 million copies sold on Playstation consoles in Japan including FFX and FFVII with both selling over 3 million copies (VII rounded up at 4 million copies) in the past and there are two coming exclusively to the PS3 over there which should be good enough to generate the sale of at the very least 1 million new PS3's in the region.

Also all of the Gran Turismo games have also sold well over a million copies in Japan which should generate at the very least 500,000 new sales for the PS3 in Japan. And while Forza Motorsport may be able to cut down on GT5's appeal in the West, Japanese consumers will pick the Japanese game.

Even if no other game causes any PS3 consoles to sell in Japan this year, these two (three games) will still sell result in the PS3 having sold 4 million consoles in Japan between its launch in 2006 and the end of 2009 (5 to 7 million high end), while the most the 360 can hope to sell in Japan by the end of this year is 250,000 more units while 150,000 seems a much more realistic number for what 360 will sell there between now and 1-1-2010.

Even a difference of 3.5 million would be enough to guarantee far fewer Japanese exclusives coming to the 360 in the future than in its peak year in Japan of 2008 when even a difference of 2 million units between the two consoles has that it can shift games that were originally the 360's big exclusives like Ninja Gaiden II and Tales of Vesperia into being released on PS3 (in more complete forms) thus further mitigating the appeal of the 360 to Japanese consumers.

exactly. the PS3's improving situation and the 360's deteriorating siuation will mean the 36o's situation will get worse and worse, leaving it stuck in a viscious circle

 



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i find it hard to believe that some people are saying that if "x" person presented a better logical argument that people wont have as much resentment to sony... bottomline is that most people already hate or dislike sony for being arrogant and cocky.. funny thing is tho.. MS and even sometimes nintendo are the same way... its not right for a quote on quote sony fanboy to say the ps3 is gonna make a comeback buts its okay for anyone else to say the ps3 is dead or doomed QFT!



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786_ali said:
BTFeather55 said:

A lot of posts saying illogical this and that, yet they don't change the fact that main series FF games have averaged over 2.54 million copies sold on Playstation consoles in Japan including FFX and FFVII with both selling over 3 million copies (VII rounded up at 4 million copies) in the past and there are two coming exclusively to the PS3 over there which should be good enough to generate the sale of at the very least 1 million new PS3's in the region.

Also all of the Gran Turismo games have also sold well over a million copies in Japan which should generate at the very least 500,000 new sales for the PS3 in Japan. And while Forza Motorsport may be able to cut down on GT5's appeal in the West, Japanese consumers will pick the Japanese game.

Even if no other game causes any PS3 consoles to sell in Japan this year, these two (three games) will still sell result in the PS3 having sold 4 million consoles in Japan between its launch in 2006 and the end of 2009 (5 to 7 million high end), while the most the 360 can hope to sell in Japan by the end of this year is 250,000 more units while 150,000 seems a much more realistic number for what 360 will sell there between now and 1-1-2010.

Even a difference of 3.5 million would be enough to guarantee far fewer Japanese exclusives coming to the 360 in the future than in its peak year in Japan of 2008 when even a difference of 2 million units between the two consoles has that it can shift games that were originally the 360's big exclusives like Ninja Gaiden II and Tales of Vesperia into being released on PS3 (in more complete forms) thus further mitigating the appeal of the 360 to Japanese consumers.

exactly. the PS3's improving situation and the 360's deteriorating siuation will mean the 36o's situation will get worse and worse, leaving it stuck in a viscious circle

 

Sales numbers don't back up that statement. 360 sales are up year over and year and PS3 sales are down. Their has been no question that the PS3 has will will continue to have an advantage over the 360 in Japan. However, it's advantage is Japan is nothing compared to the 360's marketshare advantage in the West. In the past that would not matter, but the Japanese market is the smallest market now. Not only that the Wii's lead in Japan is near insurmountable. Between Japanese devs increasing focusing on titles that sell in the West and putting Japanese centric main titles( Monster Hunter 3, Dragon Quest 10, Tales of Graces) on the Wii. The Japanese market isn't going to be that big of an aid the PS3.

As for the Japanese sales comparison between the PS1, PS2, and PS3. The PS3 has been on the market in Japan for 125 weeks. It's sold less than a third of what the PS2 has old during that time, and less than half of what the PS1 sold. Here is the link below.

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=PS&reg1=Japan&cons2=PS2&reg2=Japan&cons3=PS3&reg3=Japan&weeks=125