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Darc Requiem on 30 March 2009
Godot said:
Actually, the game doesn't get much better with time. Emil is still annoying as hell until the end of the game. The pokemon monster catching thing is retarded. The plot is also rather ridiculous and has little to do with that of the original game. I think it a worse spinoff than FFX-2 was.

That's not possible. If wanted to see Charlies Angels, I would have rented the DVD. FFX-2 is travesty and that is inspite of the top notch play. The bastardization of the Final Fantasy X characters and overall universe is just plain unforgiveable. Not to mention the story has was beyond ridiculous. I mean the series of events and unlikelihoods that would have to be brought about for the FFX-2 plot to be possible is ridiculous, even by gaming standards. I think the only character that remained consistent between FFX and FFX-2 was Rikku. Sorry for the mini rant but FFX-2 is one of my most hated games in the series.

 



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Stephlereff on 30 March 2009
Darc Requiem said:
Stephlereff said:
Agreed.

It's a shame that people only start hating on some games months after release, when i bought it everybody was talking how great it is and how Daemon on IGN was an idiot for giving the game a 6.7 (Good thing i only expected this game to be ok)

Daemon's review of the game was joke. He complained about staples of the JRPG genre in the review. Any review that complains about the basic features of genre is made of fail.

I disagree.

A game can have a repetitive fighting mechanic and work great,another game can have the same repetitive fighting mechanic and fail.

It all depend how well it was implented into the game.

 



bardicverse on 30 March 2009

I dont get it, why would anyone create a character so annoying as Emil? Im sure it gets explained, but how can this be the leader of the resistance? He doesnt have any backbone



g-value on 30 March 2009

@ Bardicverse

You should have gotten Tales of Vesperia instead.



Kenology on 30 March 2009
bardicverse said:
I dont get it, why would anyone create a character so annoying as Emil? Im sure it gets explained, but how can this be the leader of the resistance? He doesnt have any backbone

When he's "possessed" by Ratatosk, he seems to be a totally different person.

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Demotruk on 30 March 2009

Huh, I just re-read Daemon's review, I don't see where he bashes the genre itself. He simply states that the game is doing nothing new, which could be forgivable if it was doing what it does well, but it doesn't.



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Torillian on 30 March 2009

It picks up, but still does alot of extremely annoying things. The monster catching is ridiculously simplistic and really only serves to allow them to only give you two new main characters and fill the rest in with ToS characters that can be switched in and out. I also grew annoyed with Emil's infatuation with that badass type character who he meets in the beginning. Had so many flashbacks with that guy as the main focus I thought Emil and him were going to end up together in the end.

In the end, it does enough things to make up for the faults to a point and bring itself up to an average game.



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JTurner82 on 30 March 2009

I personally found DotNW to be great fun. Not as spectacular as the original Symphonia, but still a very solid game to play. I do admit that I was a bit iffy about Emil at first, but he grew on me, and in the end I found him to be a very realized character, especially at the midway point where he has to struggle between being himself or the rougher, mean-spirited Ratatosk. I found that character aspect very intriguing. I also liked Marta and Tenebrae; they served as very enjoyable characters, and I was really surprised at how much I liked Laura Bailey as Marta. Tenebrae has all the best lines, too.

I must be in the minority here, but I found the game to be very captivating from the start, and in spite of the slow spots, I still really didn't care, especially since I found it a joy to revisit the world that engrossed me in the original.

All in all, I'd say it's a great title. Not a AAA masterpiece by any means, but still a solid little game which is actually better than its "spin-off" reputation makes it out to be.



Godot on 30 March 2009
Darc Requiem said:
Godot said:
Actually, the game doesn't get much better with time. Emil is still annoying as hell until the end of the game. The pokemon monster catching thing is retarded. The plot is also rather ridiculous and has little to do with that of the original game. I think it a worse spinoff than FFX-2 was.

That's not possible. If wanted to see Charlies Angels, I would have rented the DVD. FFX-2 is travesty and that is inspite of the top notch play. The bastardization of the Final Fantasy X characters and overall universe is just plain unforgiveable. Not to mention the story has was beyond ridiculous. I mean the series of events and unlikelihoods that would have to be brought about for the FFX-2 plot to be possible is ridiculous, even by gaming standards. I think the only character that remained consistent between FFX and FFX-2 was Rikku. Sorry for the mini rant but FFX-2 is one of my most hated games in the series.

 

 

I actually agree with everything you said. I think that I may feel worse about the ToS spin-off than the FFX one because Tales of Symphonia is one of my favourite game of all time. So, I was really disppointed by Dawn of the New World. I liked FFX but I knew the spin-off wouldn't be nearly as good. Now, Majora's Mask, that was a very good spin-off.



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griffinA on 30 March 2009
Riot Of The Blood said:
Demotruk said:
You can make RPG's interesting from the start. You either have to get an interesting premise going right away or make the characters worth caring about as quickly as possible, as well as trying to minimize any issues that might get on the player's nerves, like bad voice acting or dialogue. Many RPG's do this.

I've never played an RPG like that, then.

I give RPG's around 10 hours or so to prove themselfs. It usually takes around 8-10 for the RPG to actually be interesting story wise from my experience.

 

 I haven't played many 3-d JRPGs but off the top of my head Chrono Trigger and Secret of Mana both jump into an intriguing story in the first 10 minutes, let alone the first 10 hours. Chrono Trigger especially was well told and had great sympathetic characters.



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