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N.Genckel on 29 March 2009

I just hope it has great legs, because it's a great game.



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Gilgamesh on 29 March 2009
noname2200 said:
Gilgamesh said:
Demotruk said:
Gilgamesh said:

It should of done atlease a million worlwide

What is your basis for this grammatically incorrect, syntactically incorrect and punctuation lacking statement?

It's a Grand Theft Auto game! why wouldn't it do good, 140K first week is not exceptable in my book, especially on a platform that has an install base of over 100 million consumer's.

(^No grammar mistakes in that, you happy now?)

The "W" in "why" should be capitalized, and that clause is a rhetorical sentence, so it needs a question mark. Additionally, it becomes a run-on sentence. "140k first week" is acceptable, but only just: please make it "140k in first week sales" to clarify what is the subject of the sentence. Additionally, there should not be an apostrophe in "consumers," as that is the possessive form.

And "you happy now" is a fragment.

Edit: And "exceptable" is not a word.

Your getting way to complicated, everything is fine. :)



Xeta on 29 March 2009
Gilgamesh said:
noname2200 said:
Gilgamesh said:
Demotruk said:
Gilgamesh said:

It should of done atlease a million worlwide

What is your basis for this grammatically incorrect, syntactically incorrect and punctuation lacking statement?

It's a Grand Theft Auto game! why wouldn't it do good, 140K first week is not exceptable in my book, especially on a platform that has an install base of over 100 million consumer's.

(^No grammar mistakes in that, you happy now?)

The "W" in "why" should be capitalized, and that clause is a rhetorical sentence, so it needs a question mark. Additionally, it becomes a run-on sentence. "140k first week" is acceptable, but only just: please make it "140k in first week sales" to clarify what is the subject of the sentence. Additionally, there should not be an apostrophe in "consumers," as that is the possessive form.

And "you happy now" is a fragment.

Edit: And "exceptable" is not a word.

Your getting way to complicated, everything is fine. :)

 

0.14%, not 0.0014%

EDIT: Actually, since the game has not been released in Japan, only about 0.2% of the accessible userbase.



supermario128 on 29 March 2009

Just give it some time, it's a pretty fun game. More people will buy it.




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Majin-Tenshinhan on 29 March 2009
Gilgamesh said:
Declan said:

By GTA standards, CW's opening week was modest to say the least.  Many are already calling the game a sales failure in relation to the size of the DS userbase.  However, I think a couple of things are often ignored in the thought process that reaches such a conclusion:

1)  GTA is very much targeted to a male audience.  I'd be surprised if females accounted for as much as 5% of GTA IV's sales.  The DS userbase is around 50% female.

2) CW is an 18-rated game.  I really don't know what the average age DS owners is, but school kids undoubtedly account for a large proportion of them.

If the target audience for a GTA game is males who are over 18, people shouldn't be looking for huge numbers from CW.  The target audience may account for less than a quarter of DS owners.

Only .0014% of DS owners bought the game first week

1- 50% of 100 million is 50 million (that's a huge number!)

2- Age limit's never bothered me, I use to buy 18 or M rated games all the time when I was younger and I was always able to buy it, no one really looks at that except parents.

It should of done atlease a million worlwide

But everyone says it'll have legs? so we'll just have to wait and see.

 

 

Whoa, where did you learn math? .0014% of 100 million is 1400 copies, man. I think you mean .14%.



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Gilgamesh on 29 March 2009
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
Gilgamesh said:
Declan said:

By GTA standards, CW's opening week was modest to say the least.  Many are already calling the game a sales failure in relation to the size of the DS userbase.  However, I think a couple of things are often ignored in the thought process that reaches such a conclusion:

1)  GTA is very much targeted to a male audience.  I'd be surprised if females accounted for as much as 5% of GTA IV's sales.  The DS userbase is around 50% female.

2) CW is an 18-rated game.  I really don't know what the average age DS owners is, but school kids undoubtedly account for a large proportion of them.

If the target audience for a GTA game is males who are over 18, people shouldn't be looking for huge numbers from CW.  The target audience may account for less than a quarter of DS owners.

Only .0014% of DS owners bought the game first week

1- 50% of 100 million is 50 million (that's a huge number!)

2- Age limit's never bothered me, I use to buy 18 or M rated games all the time when I was younger and I was always able to buy it, no one really looks at that except parents.

It should of done atlease a million worlwide

But everyone says it'll have legs? so we'll just have to wait and see.

 

 

Whoa, where did you learn math? .0014% of 100 million is 1400 copies, man. I think you mean .14%.

Oops my bad, still an extremely low percentage

Everyone should stop quoting me, I've been embarrased enough



Shinlock on 29 March 2009

Well there is one thing to be sure about. GTA:Chinatown wars hasn't underperformed because its a bad game. The game is a gem for the console on many fronts.

My core gaming group of friends have all tried out the game. Only 2 of us brought it, the rest played our copies for 30 or so minutes, one decided to pirate the game :(

I know a-lot of DS owners either as being directly friends or via co-workers at work. I have to say most of the owners are either seniors (50+) or under 16 (game is R16 in NZ). they easily out number my core gaming group (just 6 of us are hardcore gamers, but we're all mid to late 20s).


But here is my gut feeling (as I can't really can't prove any of this with statistics).
in NZ, the game was poorly advertised, nintendo products normally are but in NZ it was really bad, I had to tell my friends that the game existed. Nintendo DS's market I'd say is filled with kids and seniors along with casual 20-30 somethings who have the DS for mario or generally aren't interested in mature games at all. The Hardcore I'd say are out numbered.

The GTA:CTW owners are most likely also GTA4 owners (I am), I honestly wouldn't be surprised of alot of owners that already have GTA4 flagged buying the game because they already had GTA4 and are happy with that. Reason's for flagging it could be either being happy with GTA4 for now or disliking the DS's graphics and/or the play-style of the game (top down perspecitive).

Piracy could be a reason (not the main reason). I already had a friend who pirated the game, and I'm expecting that to grow by at least 1 more person. with a recession (the R word), I wouldn't be at all surprised if the hardcore DS players are pirating if they can and saving their pennies for this seasons must have games.



 

izaaz101 on 29 March 2009
Gilgamesh said:
noname2200 said:

The "W" in "why" should be capitalized, and that clause is a rhetorical sentence, so it needs a question mark. Additionally, it becomes a run-on sentence. "140k first week" is acceptable, but only just: please make it "140k in first week sales" to clarify what is the subject of the sentence. Additionally, there should not be an apostrophe in "consumers," as that is the possessive form.

And "you happy now" is a fragment.

Edit: And "exceptable" is not a word.

Your getting way to complicated, everything is fine. :)

I'll add a couple more. "Your" should be you're and "to" should be too.

 



Gilgamesh on 29 March 2009
izaaz101 said:
Gilgamesh said:
noname2200 said:

The "W" in "why" should be capitalized, and that clause is a rhetorical sentence, so it needs a question mark. Additionally, it becomes a run-on sentence. "140k first week" is acceptable, but only just: please make it "140k in first week sales" to clarify what is the subject of the sentence. Additionally, there should not be an apostrophe in "consumers," as that is the possessive form.

And "you happy now" is a fragment.

Edit: And "exceptable" is not a word.

Your getting way to complicated, everything is fine. :)

I'll add a couple more. "Your" should be you're and "to" should be too.

 

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noname2200 on 29 March 2009
Gilgamesh said:

tank: u' fo correkting, mee. teecher! don't be an @$$

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