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The 3DO project was founded and designed by the people of the original Amiga team, RJ Mical (Amiga co-Founder / software designer, 3DO co-founder / designer, now "working on top-secret technology for Sony"), David Morse (Amiga co-founder, 3DO co-founder), Dave Needle (Amiga hardware designer, 3DO designer). A top team!

IMO:

1) 3DO (state of the art, but expensive)
2) Amiga CD32 (sadly based on older Amiga technology though, still most multi-featured and flexible)
3) Atari Jaguar (what a shitty gamepad, console lacking CD drive by default)

A games comparison:

Atari Jaguar (with CD add-on) Primal Rage:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2nbystI8NU

Amiga CD32 Fightin Spirit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4jdNPsbdow (Amiga 500 version, the CD32 is a little better, but not by much, Capital Punishment is my favourite)

3DO Street Fighter 2: Turbo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRQclMTxYbU

IMO in this example IMO the 3DO was technically the best by far. However IMO the Amiga CD32 had the most good games available (Chaos Engine, Cannon Fodder, Exile, Pinball Illusions, Supefrog, Simon The Sorcerer, etc, etc), despite its short lifespan and many if not most of the games being straight Amiga 500 ports.



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Alby_da_Wolf said:
^^
Back in DOS and Win 3.x era, anything different from plain Tseng Labs or other common graphics and SoundBlaster for sound was really a gamble, even when it wasn't bugged. Still with Win95, thanks to 16bit bits and pieces and MS dropping any serious support and improvement short after W98 release (only during XP Home late years MS eventually extended the lifecycle also for home and not professional versions) I had incompatibilities and conflicts popping up out from nowhere after driver updates, SW installs or updates, etc, I even eventually had to do an intermediate step through Win ME as W98 wasn't available anymore, W95 drivers weren't released anymore for some new HW I wanted and Win 2000 drivers weren't there yet, they started coming for some of my first major upgrade's HW one year too late. Win 2000 eventually became the best MS OS I ever had, but in the meantime I was forced to use Win ME crap. Anyway, Win ME became my vaccine for MS marketing, as time went by I even forgave ATI for its bad support for my first graphics card and I restarted buying its products, but I never forgave MS for Win ME and whatever they say I initially don't believe them anymore until it's proven with scientific methods

This is true, but the 3DO Blaster was buggier by far than even a normally problematic Windows hardware installation.

 

MikeB said:

IMO in this example IMO the 3DO was technically the best by far. However IMO the Amiga CD32 had the most good games available (Chaos Engine, Cannon Fodder, Exile, Pinball Illusions, Supefrog, Simon The Sorcerer, etc, etc), despite its short lifespan and many if not most of the games being straight Amiga 500 ports.

This was also its greatest weakness: if given the option of playing games (good though they were) that I'd already played for years on end, I'd opt for the Jag or 3DO over the CD32 on that principle alone--after all, I don't generally buy new hardware to replay the same old games with, perhaps, slightly improved graphics/audio. (Even if one of those games is the immortal Chaos Engine/Soldiers of Fortune.)




MikeB said:

The 3DO project was founded and designed by the people of the original Amiga team, RJ Mical (Amiga co-Founder / software designer, 3DO co-founder / designer, now "working on top-secret technology for Sony"), David Morse (Amiga co-founder, 3DO co-founder), Dave Needle (Amiga hardware designer, 3DO designer). A top team!

IMO:

1) 3DO (state of the art, but expensive)
2) Amiga CD32 (sadly based on older Amiga technology though, still most multi-featured and flexible)
3) Atari Jaguar (what a shitty gamepad, console lacking CD drive by default)

A games comparison:

Atari Jaguar (with CD add-on) Primal Rage:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2nbystI8NU

Amiga CD32 Fightin Spirit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4jdNPsbdow (Amiga 500 version, the CD32 is a little better, but not by much, Capital Punishment is my favourite)

3DO Street Fighter 2: Turbo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRQclMTxYbU

IMO in this example IMO the 3DO was technically the best by far. However IMO the Amiga CD32 had the most good games available (Chaos Engine, Cannon Fodder, Exile, Pinball Illusions, Supefrog, Simon The Sorcerer, etc, etc), despite its short lifespan and many if not most of the games being straight Amiga 500 ports.

Yes, very empirical. What do you think the comparative budgets of Street Fighter 2:Turbo and the other games were?

In what way was the 3DO state of the art exactly?

 



alephnull said:
MikeB said:

The 3DO project was founded and designed by the people of the original Amiga team, RJ Mical (Amiga co-Founder / software designer, 3DO co-founder / designer, now "working on top-secret technology for Sony"), David Morse (Amiga co-founder, 3DO co-founder), Dave Needle (Amiga hardware designer, 3DO designer). A top team!

IMO:

1) 3DO (state of the art, but expensive)
2) Amiga CD32 (sadly based on older Amiga technology though, still most multi-featured and flexible)
3) Atari Jaguar (what a shitty gamepad, console lacking CD drive by default)

A games comparison:

Atari Jaguar (with CD add-on) Primal Rage:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2nbystI8NU

Amiga CD32 Fightin Spirit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4jdNPsbdow (Amiga 500 version, the CD32 is a little better, but not by much, Capital Punishment is my favourite)

3DO Street Fighter 2: Turbo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRQclMTxYbU

IMO in this example IMO the 3DO was technically the best by far. However IMO the Amiga CD32 had the most good games available (Chaos Engine, Cannon Fodder, Exile, Pinball Illusions, Supefrog, Simon The Sorcerer, etc, etc), despite its short lifespan and many if not most of the games being straight Amiga 500 ports.

Yes, very empirical. What do you think the comparative budgets of Street Fighter 2:Turbo and the other games were?

In what way was the 3DO state of the art exactly?

 

 

 It was one of the first CD based consoles, and it plays DVD's if I'm not mistaken. Please correct me if I'm wrong.



It doesn't play DVDs...and yes, it was one of the first CD based consoles. As for the first CD console, I think that was FM-Towns Marty, if we are not counting add ons (then it's PC-Engine CD-ROM).



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Neither system really interested me, nor would either interest me today. The 3DO was a glorified PC-in-a-box, and had a game line-up of PC ports to prove it. The Jaguar, while it did stand out more, was not well designed at all. Of the two, however, the Jaguar is the better deal by marginal degree, if only because it had a few good exclusives.



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3DO was the better system but this is only by default. Anyone that's ever played the Atari Jaguar knows that it is the worst system of all time.



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Yanks don't know about the Amiga CD32.

So many threads ignores it.



GamingChartzFTW said:
Yanks don't know about the Amiga CD32.

So many threads ignores it.

Uh, this 'yank' owns one and lots of games for it but the main reason it doesn't get mentioned much is because it was one of the fastest-dying consoles of all time (it not the fastest) plus the vast bulk of the library were ports from the A500 and A1200.

In fact, were there even ten CD32-exclusive games released? (And just so we're clear: by exclusive I mean they didn't exist in some fashion already on the CDTV/A500/A1200.)

What's next: complaining that the Amstrad GX4K, SuperGrafx and PC-FX don't get mentioned much?




Star Scream said:

It doesn't play DVDs...and yes, it was one of the first CD based consoles. As for the first CD console, I think that was FM-Towns Marty, if we are not counting add ons (then it's PC-Engine CD-ROM).

whoops, my mistake. thanks for the correct.

It did have full motion video, which sucks, but technically it was high tech.