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MANUELF on 30 March 2009

Ireland:

TOP 20 ENTERTAINMENT SOFTWARE (ALL PRICES), WEEK ENDING 28 March 2009

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   TW     Title Developer Label Publisher
1 1     RESIDENT EVIL 5 CAPCOM CAPCOM CAPCOM
3 2     WWE LEGENDS OF WRESTLEMANIA YUKE'S THQ THQ
6 3     FIFA 09 EA CANADA EA SPORTS ELECTRONIC ARTS
10 4     GRAND THEFT AUTO: CHINATOWN WARS ROCKSTAR LEEDS ROCKSTAR TAKE 2
13 5     CALL OF DUTY 4: MODERN WARFARE INFINITY WARD ACTIVISION ACTIVISION BLIZZARD
2 6     PROFESSOR LAYTON AND THE CURIOUS VILLAGE LEVEL 5 NINTENDO NINTENDO
5 7     KILLZONE 2 GUERRILLA GAMES SONY COMPUTER ENT. SONY COMPUTER ENT.
4 8     WII FIT NINTENDO NINTENDO NINTENDO
9 9     BEN 10: ALIEN FORCE 1ST PLAYABLE D3P D3P
- 10     NEED FOR SPEED: PROSTREET EA BLACK BOX EA GAMES ELECTRONIC ARTS
7 11     TOM CLANCY'S H.A.W.X. UBISOFT (ROMANIA) UBISOFT UBISOFT
15 12     CALL OF DUTY: WORLD AT WAR TREYARCH ACTIVISION ACTIVISION BLIZZARD
11 13     STREET FIGHTER IV CAPCOM CAPCOM CAPCOM
8 14     CLUB PENGUIN: ELITE PENGUIN FORCE 1ST PLAYABLE DISNEY INTERACTIVE STUDIOS DISNEY INTERACTIVE STUDIOS
16 15     GRAND THEFT AUTO IV ROCKSTAR NORTH ROCKSTAR TAKE 2
17 16     MARIO & SONIC AT THE OLYMPIC GAMES SEGA SEGA SEGA
- 17     THE SIMPSONS GAME REBELLION PLATINUM ELECTRONIC ARTS
- 18     WHEELMAN MIDWAY STUDIOS NEWCASTLE MIDWAY UBISOFT
- 19     PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 2009 KONAMI DIGITAL ENTERTAINMENT KONAMI KONAMI
12 20     DR KAWASHIMA'S BRAIN TRAINING NINTENDO NINTENDO NINTENDO

 



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dark_gh0st_b0y on 30 March 2009

you said the same about De Blob and so many other Wii games

Wii games spread better for a curious reason, we have to wait for 10 weeks to tell if MadWorld is a flop



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Lucas-Rio on 30 March 2009
DMeisterJ said:

So are we finally done believing Madworld will have legs? lol. that was a dumb belief from jump.

Should it have been a PS360 game?  It would have sold tons better.

 

You mean like God hand, Okami , Viewtiful joe and Killer7 on PS2 ?

Madworld could have sold even less on PS3 or 360. This game is really hardcore.

 

Maybe Bayonneta can  sell more since this is not hardcore.



outlawauron on 30 March 2009
Kenology said:
^ So you're saying NMH didn't make a profit and only broke even? News to me... link?

And I'd say 400k for a budget game with no marketing is damn good.

I'll play Devil's Advocate.

Well, yes it may have made money. But it did not sell well. 400k isn't a lot anyway you slice it.



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Seneque on 30 March 2009

Well, before I forget to do it : The performances of this week's new releases :

In the UK All-Format chart for this week (All-Price, the one Chart-Track comments on) :

  • "Wheelman" begins in place 11.
  • "Afro Samurai" takes the place 33. Not bad for an anime based game. Of course, it had to be a really violent one ...

In the UK PS3 chart for this week :

  • "Command and Conquer: Red Alert 3", apparently a late release, is the highest new entry, in place 6.
  • "Wheelman" begins in place 7.
  • "Rock Band 2" starts in place 14. It seems like the 360 version has been released at the beginning of the month, and hasn't been able to chart. Edit : The 360 version was released the 21 november of 2008 (week 47), and started in place 17 in the UK 360 chart. Thanks Lombard.
  • "Afro Samurai" takes the place 15.
  • "Buzz: Brain of the UK" begins in place 29.

In the UK 360 chart for this week :

  • "Wheelman" begins in place 7.
  • "Afro Samurai" takes the place 12.
  • "Stormrise" starts in place 35. In the same time, a RTS based on a new IP on a console, that was quite suicidal. At least, no one can accuse Sega not to try.

In the UK Wii chart for this week :

  • "Pro Evolution Soccer 2009" begins in place 9, just below "Madworld". I would have expected a little better from such a franchise.
  • "Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Echoes of Time" starts in place 36. Well, same comment than above, but in worse.
  • Not new releases, but "Sonic and the Black Knight" remains in the top 5. "Sonic Unleashed" is not that far behind, in place 14.

In the UK DS chart for this week :

  • "Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Echoes of Time" starts in place 36, just like its Wii counterpart.

In the UK PS2 chart for this week :

  • "Monsters vs Aliens" begins in place 10.
  • "Mania Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis" starts in place 11. I never thought it would be able to chart. That's quite a relief.
  • "Buzz: Brain of the UK" begins in place 12.
  • "Rock Band 2" takes the place 15. It was released algonside the PS3 version.

In the UK PC chart for this week :

  • "Battleforge" begins in place 20.
  • Not a new release, but the "Last Remnant" climbs 2 places, up to rank 18. I'm in awe. There might be a future for JRPG on PC.

No new entry in the PSP chart.



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DirtyP2002 on 30 March 2009

Halo Wars getting better this week ^^



Imagine not having GamePass on your console...

woopah on 30 March 2009

i think a realistic explanation for madworld would be 400k in line with madworld. what was clovers highest selling game?



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Zucas on 30 March 2009
DMeisterJ said:
Zucas said:
DMeisterJ said:

So are we finally done believing Madworld will have legs? lol. that was a dumb belief from jump.

Should it have been a PS360 game? It would have sold tons better.

Yea because niche stylized games sell so well on PS360.

Well, obviously they don't sell that well on the Wii *cough* NMH *cough* so one would think that Sega would try their luck on the PS360 instead...

Which is not even a response to what I said.  I knew you'd respond in one of 2 ways.  Either you'd agree with what I said becuase it was perfectly right.  Or you'd avoid it by saying Wii doesn't sell them either.  How predictable people have become. 

The thing you probably overlooked, which many do, is that stylized niche games don't sell well in GENERAL.  I mean the best selling stylized game I can think of is Wind Waker and imagine how much that would have sold had it not been Zelda.  Other great games such as Okami, Vietiful Joe, Eternal Sonata, and yes Valkyria Chronicles all did not sell well.  Some might say other reasons but it is no coincidence they are all stylized.  Only stylized game this gen I know has done well is Crackdown and its GTA styled gameplay before GTA IV gave it an edge.  The niche part of Madworld is the ungodly violence in the game.  How many super violent games actually sell well.  You really can't name many.  Your average Halo or Call of Duty or Grand Theft Auto isn't violent whatsoever.  But games like Madworld, Manhunt 1 and 2, Condemned, etc all are extremely gory and violent and their sales represent it. 

They just don't have a huge market for stylized uber violent games.  They aren't mainstream and probably for awhile, never will be.  So would it have done better on PS360?  I'm sure it may have had a better opening but would never have come close to a million nor had any legs whatsoever considering a lot of their userbase is mainstream just like the Wii.  Not to mention no brand, no established IP, and having to compete with the recent release of RE5, SF and on 360 the long standing Ninja Gaiden 2.  At least with Wii you released with virtually no immediate competition, a platform that has shown resilience to stereotypical buying patterns, and a system that has had large genre variety along with a game similar to this that has done fairly well from a development standpoint. 

This doesn't mean Wii was the right development choice or would have yielded the best results.  But it was the path of least resistance and out of all 3 yieled the least risk before production.

 



DMeisterJ on 30 March 2009
Zucas said:
DMeisterJ said:
Zucas said:
DMeisterJ said:

So are we finally done believing Madworld will have legs? lol. that was a dumb belief from jump.

Should it have been a PS360 game? It would have sold tons better.

Yea because niche stylized games sell so well on PS360.

Well, obviously they don't sell that well on the Wii *cough* NMH *cough* so one would think that Sega would try their luck on the PS360 instead...

Which is not even a response to what I said.  I knew you'd respond in one of 2 ways.  Either you'd agree with what I said becuase it was perfectly right.  Or you'd avoid it by saying Wii doesn't sell them either.  How predictable people have become. 

The thing you probably overlooked, which many do, is that stylized niche games don't sell well in GENERAL.  I mean the best selling stylized game I can think of is Wind Waker and imagine how much that would have sold had it not been Zelda.  Other great games such as Okami, Vietiful Joe, Eternal Sonata, and yes Valkyria Chronicles all did not sell well.  Some might say other reasons but it is no coincidence they are all stylized.  Only stylized game this gen I know has done well is Crackdown and its GTA styled gameplay before GTA IV gave it an edge.  The niche part of Madworld is the ungodly violence in the game.  How many super violent games actually sell well.  You really can't name many.  Your average Halo or Call of Duty or Grand Theft Auto isn't violent whatsoever.  But games like Madworld, Manhunt 1 and 2, Condemned, etc all are extremely gory and violent and their sales represent it. 

They just don't have a huge market for stylized uber violent games.  They aren't mainstream and probably for awhile, never will be.  So would it have done better on PS360?  I'm sure it may have had a better opening but would never have come close to a million nor had any legs whatsoever considering a lot of their userbase is mainstream just like the Wii.  Not to mention no brand, no established IP, and having to compete with the recent release of RE5, SF and on 360 the long standing Ninja Gaiden 2.  At least with Wii you released with virtually no immediate competition, a platform that has shown resilience to stereotypical buying patterns, and a system that has had large genre variety along with a game similar to this that has done fairly well from a development standpoint. 

This doesn't mean Wii was the right development choice or would have yielded the best results.  But it was the path of least resistance and out of all 3 yieled the least risk before production.

Yeah, God of War isn't a violent game at all.  Ripping people apart, tearing out eyes, etc. is all casual kiddie stuff.  x_x

And that game has sold tons.



Zucas on 30 March 2009
DMeisterJ said:
Zucas said:
DMeisterJ said:
Zucas said:
DMeisterJ said:

So are we finally done believing Madworld will have legs? lol. that was a dumb belief from jump.

Should it have been a PS360 game? It would have sold tons better.

Yea because niche stylized games sell so well on PS360.

Well, obviously they don't sell that well on the Wii *cough* NMH *cough* so one would think that Sega would try their luck on the PS360 instead...

Which is not even a response to what I said.  I knew you'd respond in one of 2 ways.  Either you'd agree with what I said becuase it was perfectly right.  Or you'd avoid it by saying Wii doesn't sell them either.  How predictable people have become. 

The thing you probably overlooked, which many do, is that stylized niche games don't sell well in GENERAL.  I mean the best selling stylized game I can think of is Wind Waker and imagine how much that would have sold had it not been Zelda.  Other great games such as Okami, Vietiful Joe, Eternal Sonata, and yes Valkyria Chronicles all did not sell well.  Some might say other reasons but it is no coincidence they are all stylized.  Only stylized game this gen I know has done well is Crackdown and its GTA styled gameplay before GTA IV gave it an edge.  The niche part of Madworld is the ungodly violence in the game.  How many super violent games actually sell well.  You really can't name many.  Your average Halo or Call of Duty or Grand Theft Auto isn't violent whatsoever.  But games like Madworld, Manhunt 1 and 2, Condemned, etc all are extremely gory and violent and their sales represent it. 

They just don't have a huge market for stylized uber violent games.  They aren't mainstream and probably for awhile, never will be.  So would it have done better on PS360?  I'm sure it may have had a better opening but would never have come close to a million nor had any legs whatsoever considering a lot of their userbase is mainstream just like the Wii.  Not to mention no brand, no established IP, and having to compete with the recent release of RE5, SF and on 360 the long standing Ninja Gaiden 2.  At least with Wii you released with virtually no immediate competition, a platform that has shown resilience to stereotypical buying patterns, and a system that has had large genre variety along with a game similar to this that has done fairly well from a development standpoint. 

This doesn't mean Wii was the right development choice or would have yielded the best results.  But it was the path of least resistance and out of all 3 yieled the least risk before production.

Yeah, God of War isn't a violent game at all.  Ripping people apart, tearing out eyes, etc. is all casual kiddie stuff.  x_x

And that game has sold tons.

 

And yet because of that it still can't sell on Call of Duty and Halo levels.  It gets there because of it's accessible gameplay and built up brand but suffers from its violence.  However if it was on the violence level of say Manhunt or Madworld, it would be even less.  Once again case and point.