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heruamon said:
makingmusic476 said:
heruamon said:
Mark my words...Mass Effect 2 will not be multi-console at launch, which effectively means it's exclusive...EA is hurting, so pissing in the wind to guaranteed money from M$ for some possible money from sales of PS3 is not going to happen. Mass Effect 2 will sell 3-4 million copies in it's first year on the 360 only...plus, I'm sure M$ is going to sweeten the pot with a nice publishing deal. EA is a publisher that's hurting..."bird in the hand..."

 

If the first Mass Effect didn't come close to that, why would the sequel?

And EA's current financial duress is exactly why I believe both Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2 will make there way to ps3 at some point.  They need money, and they're known for putting their games on every console under the sun as it is.

Edit: Wow.  Just realized LittleBigPlanet has already outsold the 360 version of Mass Effect LTD.

My prediction is based on the performance of Fable II, and Fallout 3 on the 360...The original Mass Effect sold 2.02 million according to VGC (unless you don't trust this data), and this was a title launched in 2007, with 377k in week one.  WRT to legs, that's pretty darn impressive, and the game has established itself as a top RPG franchise on the 360.  I don't believe that estimating 3-4 million is pie-in-the-sky or out of bounds to expect.  I DO believe Mass Effect will be an exclusive, timed or not, and I DO believe it's going to significantly top the last game...trend analysis supports that happening, based on 360 games to-date.

I used Bioshock, as an example of a title that WAS ballyhooed as being so much improved on the ps3 over the original game, and the sales performance didn’t materialize, not the argument is for Bioware to invest a lot of resources to port a game, and hope for sales…if that silly on my part, then I guess I’m just a clown.  Last time I checked, EA is bleeding money, and the key for any project is ROI, not some intrinsic ideal.

I am not going to get into a @$#$ measuring contest wrt to LBP vs. Mass Effect, since that statistical battle will lead to me getting ban ...I'll just be diplomatic and say great job on that game reaching the 2 million mark, and best of luck to it.

 

 

 

Well, just focusing on your Mass Effect 2 sales prediction, I'm not sure how a 50-100% increase is possible.  Very few franchises sell better with each subsequent iteration in a single generation (just look at some of the more popular ps1/2 franchise, like FF, GT, R&C, J&D, MGS, etc.), and the rare few that do don't have near as significant an increase as that (Halo 1 > Halo 2 was only a ~31% increase).  I have yet to see a franchise that wasn't a sports title that has manage an increase between iterations this gen, either. 

Just look at Call of Duty: World at War.  Initially it was tracking far above Call of Duty 4, but it's legs have proven to be far weaker (most likely due to the quality of the title versus 4), and it is now falling below 4:

http://www.vgchartz.com/swlaunch.php?reg1=All&game1=Call+of+Duty+4%3A+Modern+Warfare+-+X360&reg2=All&game2=Call+of+Duty%3A+World+at+War+-+X360&reg3=All&game3=&weeks=50

Gears of War 2 is also showing weaker legs than Gears of War, despite the much stronger opening (it's selling around 24k a week, compared to 36k a week for the originla in a similar timeframe), and it looks like Geras 2's lifetime sales will die off right around that of the first Gears', though probably a bit higher.

http://www.vgchartz.com/swlaunch.php?reg1=All&game1=Gears+of+War+-+X360&reg2=All&game2=Gears+of+War+2+-+X360&reg3=All&game3=&weeks=100

Of course, Gears 2's second holiday season will be the decider.  The game has weaker legs because it was obviously more frontloaded than it's predecessor, and if it has a much weaker second holiday than the first Gears, it'll probably fall to right around where the first died in the end.

Edit:

Ahah!  It seems I was wrong.  PGR4 managed to outsell PGR3 by 19%.  Of course, they do offer that PGR4/headset/XBL bundle, but I can't se that having changed things all that much.



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The problem with a port of Mass Effect 2 is that Microsoft published the first one on consoles... and I'm sure they had a contract with Bioware before the purchase of the company. If the game does get a port it will likely be ported by an outside development team and we all know how that shit turned out with Orange Box... lets hope if it does get a port it isn't shit... though I don't see much reason to port the game over to the PS3 as Bioshock showed that a delayed port often doesn't mean to much. I bet a little incentive would secure the franchise for Microsoft... perhaps a advertising deal



If it does hit PS3, they sure as hell better port the first game, because I won't buy and play the second unless I've played the first. Yes, I could go buy it on PC now, but I'd rather play it on PS3 for a bunch of reasons.



mass effect 2 on ps3 would break many a 360 fanboy hearts.



This sounds very similar to the Kojima refuses to deny MGS4 for X360 back in 2007/08.

Game developers get your hopes up and then your hopes are dashed when the truth is revealed and no game is heading for your console system.

I highly doubt Mass Effect 2 will be heading to PS3. Mass Effect did not come out for PS3.



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numonex said:
This sounds very similar to the Kojima refuses to deny MGS4 for X360 back in 2007/08.

Game developers get your hopes up and then your hopes are dashed when the truth is revealed and no game is heading for your console system.

I highly doubt Mass Effect 2 will be heading to PS3. Mass Effect did not come out for PS3.

Whilst I don't contest your central point (that devs repeatedly dash hopes with their -- often contractually obliged -- close-lipped stances) Kojima wasn't really one of those. He denied a 360 MGS4 again, and again, and again, as I remember it, but people refused to believe him.



Hapimeses said:
numonex said:
This sounds very similar to the Kojima refuses to deny MGS4 for X360 back in 2007/08.

Game developers get your hopes up and then your hopes are dashed when the truth is revealed and no game is heading for your console system.

I highly doubt Mass Effect 2 will be heading to PS3. Mass Effect did not come out for PS3.

Whilst I don't contest your central point (that devs repeatedly dash hopes with their -- often contractually obliged -- close-lipped stances) Kojima wasn't really one of those. He denied a 360 MGS4 again, and again, and again, as I remember it, but people refused to believe him.

 

Ignore him, he has goggles on. :D



yeah kojima stated many times if you want mgs4 than you need a ps3. he went as far as saying ps3 was the only console mgs4 could be made for. not only did kojima deny it time and again but so did konami... a better example numonix could of given was bioshock and look how that turned out.


Cueil - porting costs a portion of the development. Bioshock probably made a nice big profit. (cost to profit ratio) also NG2 was published by MS too and its coming to the ps3 now. which leads me to believe bioware could add in some minor extras include the DLC and name the ps3 version Mass Effect: Beginings or something and get away with it. Mass Effect: Chronicles



Well I guess we are going to have to wait for E3!



the messed up thing is that even though ive been waiting to get it on my PS3... i have to get it on the 360 since my save file in on there :(