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Squilliam on 26 March 2009

We all know it looks better on the Wii, quiet down you trolling fools.



Tease.

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vlad321 on 26 March 2009
ssj12 said:
vlad321 said:
ssj12 said:
vlad321 said:
ssj12 said:
looks good but there are some hang-ups the PC version of the engine wont have.

 

Considering it's been out for the PC for 2 years, I'd hope so.

 

No, both Crysis games run on CryEngine 2. This is CryEngine 3 which farther improved that engine.

 

Well, I must be missing something, but this looks more like CryEngine 2.25 to me.

 

incremental updates for many engines are pretty much bug fixes and they add some minor features that were nearly finished for the main build but missed deadline.

Crysis used CryEngine 2

Crysis Warhead used CryEngine 2.?

 

I will straight up say that CryEngine 3 passed Crysis Warhead in graphics and physics even on the two HD consoles. I can't wait to see what it can do on say a Core i7 650 or 750 with Tri-Sli or CrossFireX.

 

Ok, THIS is incrementation of engines:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/81/Unreal_Engine_Comparison.jpg

Not what you showed me. THat's CE2.25.



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selnor on 26 March 2009
PullusPardus said:
Slimebeast said:
This is fantastic. This crushes Killzone and Gears of war.

 

not really , i noticed there is alot of Pop outs espicially when they view the sea, and when that tree falls off you see weird slowish frame rates and the shadow looks out of place.

however the Water effects are the best thing about CryEngine in my opinion

 

 People seriously. Pop ins and frame rate will be addressed properly once the engine is fully finished. This is like a sneak preview.

 

OT: This is leagues ahead of any other console engine. In detail, Textures, Lighting, Effects. The list goes on. CRYTek must have been laughing their arse off at all the forum fights about PS360 being maxed. No game goes close to this. Heres to even better graphics on our PS360's. :)



arsenicazure on 26 March 2009

well if this is cry engine 3.. and crysis warhead isnt as intensive as the "original crysis" why havent we seen a ps3/360 port yet?



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blackstar on 26 March 2009

lol, can't u at least wait for one game to be released then start the fight :D



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Sardauk on 26 March 2009
Pharaoh said:
^yeah the explosions can't even touch killzone's particle effects. It's like trying to pit a baby against a gorilla in an arm wrestling contest.

 

Somebody needs glasses...



 

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Reasonable on 26 March 2009
arsenicazure said:
well if this is cry engine 3.. and crysis warhead isnt as intensive as the "original crysis" why havent we seen a ps3/360 port yet?

 

Becasue CE2 was designed only for PC.  CE3 isn't some huge jump over CE2 (at least as shown here) but the redesign of the engine to enable support for consoles.

Given CE2 maxed on most PCs around this makes sense.  A huge leap would not help them in the least.  Refining what they have and getting the engine running for PC and consoles (well, 360/PS3 anyway so far) was clearly a better decision.

 



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Ascended_Saiyan3 on 26 March 2009
haxxiy said:
Garnett said:
haxxiy said:
MikeB said:

@ Baggins

I haven't looked but that "cartoony" look you always talk of with regards to the 360 visuals is actually HDR rendering (High dynamic range). It's something the PS3 is incapable of with AA at the same time. Something that the graphics chip on the 360 excells in.


The 360 is not capable of proper real FP16 HDR, only Halo 3 has this sacrificing rendering resolution and anti-aliasing. Games usually use a semi (FP10) HDR (sometimes referred to as MDR) technique only used by the console as a trade off.

Uncharted: Drake's Fortune (2007) for example provides full FP16 HDR together with anti-aliasing, but there's still was a lot of untapped potential according to the developers, so Uncharted 2 will probably push the PS3 hardware much better.

 

Just as a side note, I would like to add the PS3 is much better than the X360 at HDR. Many games like Far Cry 2, CoD 4 feature better lighting on PS3 while the X360 kinda struggles with similar effects.  See Halo 3 which runs at 1152x640 to keep with HDR while Killzone 2 features "controlled" HDR at 1920x1080 altogether with 2x temporal anti-aliasing. Only PS3 is capable of 128-bit precision full range HDR, much like Geforce 8 GPUs or later. Unlike many people think, Sony didn't just tap a Geforce 7800 onto the PS3 expecting things to work. There was a lot of development over it.

No killzone 2 runs at 720p not 1080p,get it right.

Killzone 2 natively runs at both 1080i and 720p.

1280x720x30 = 27.648 megapixels per sec displayed at screen.

1920x540x30 = 31.104 megapixels per sec displayed at screen.

Edge over 720p and still a huge advantage over 22.12 megapixels/sec on Halo 3. Comparison keeps valid. Sorry for not putting it on the right way.

To be exact, Killzone 2 renders natively at 1280x720p@30fps and 960x1080p@30fps.  The latter has more pixels than the former.  It's, also, not HDR lighting in Killzone 2, but they use al the lighting effect usually associated with HDR lighting effects (it's just slightly less accurate than HDR).

Scaling takes the 960x1080p to 1920x1080 for TVs that don't include all of the ATSC standard resolutions.

 



Ascended_Saiyan3 on 26 March 2009
selnor said:
PullusPardus said:
Slimebeast said:
This is fantastic. This crushes Killzone and Gears of war.

 

not really , i noticed there is alot of Pop outs espicially when they view the sea, and when that tree falls off you see weird slowish frame rates and the shadow looks out of place.

however the Water effects are the best thing about CryEngine in my opinion

 

 People seriously. Pop ins and frame rate will be addressed properly once the engine is fully finished. This is like a sneak preview.

 

OT: This is leagues ahead of any other console engine. In detail, Textures, Lighting, Effects. The list goes on. CRYTek must have been laughing their arse off at all the forum fights about PS360 being maxed. No game goes close to this. Heres to even better graphics on our PS360's. :)

The bold statement is incorrect.  The engine used for Killzone 2 to MUCH better.  Notice the Cryengine 3 only has 1 person in the forest and island outskirts area at a very poor framerate.  Killzone 2 handles MUCH more than this engine is dealing with...period.

Remember, CE3 is for multiplatform games.  You won't see CE3 on the PS3 handle 350 dynamic lights in an actual game like Killzone 2, according to what was shown with the CE3.



selnor on 26 March 2009
Ascended_Saiyan3 said:
haxxiy said:
Garnett said:
haxxiy said:
MikeB said:

@ Baggins

I haven't looked but that "cartoony" look you always talk of with regards to the 360 visuals is actually HDR rendering (High dynamic range). It's something the PS3 is incapable of with AA at the same time. Something that the graphics chip on the 360 excells in.


The 360 is not capable of proper real FP16 HDR, only Halo 3 has this sacrificing rendering resolution and anti-aliasing. Games usually use a semi (FP10) HDR (sometimes referred to as MDR) technique only used by the console as a trade off.

Uncharted: Drake's Fortune (2007) for example provides full FP16 HDR together with anti-aliasing, but there's still was a lot of untapped potential according to the developers, so Uncharted 2 will probably push the PS3 hardware much better.

 

Just as a side note, I would like to add the PS3 is much better than the X360 at HDR. Many games like Far Cry 2, CoD 4 feature better lighting on PS3 while the X360 kinda struggles with similar effects.  See Halo 3 which runs at 1152x640 to keep with HDR while Killzone 2 features "controlled" HDR at 1920x1080 altogether with 2x temporal anti-aliasing. Only PS3 is capable of 128-bit precision full range HDR, much like Geforce 8 GPUs or later. Unlike many people think, Sony didn't just tap a Geforce 7800 onto the PS3 expecting things to work. There was a lot of development over it.

No killzone 2 runs at 720p not 1080p,get it right.

Killzone 2 natively runs at both 1080i and 720p.

1280x720x30 = 27.648 megapixels per sec displayed at screen.

1920x540x30 = 31.104 megapixels per sec displayed at screen.

Edge over 720p and still a huge advantage over 22.12 megapixels/sec on Halo 3. Comparison keeps valid. Sorry for not putting it on the right way.

To be exact, Killzone 2 renders natively at 1280x720p@30fps and 960x1080p@30fps.  The latter has more pixels than the former.  It's, also, not HDR lighting in Killzone 2, but they use al the lighting effect usually associated with HDR lighting effects (it's just slightly less accurate than HDR).

Scaling takes the 960x1080p to 1920x1080 for TVs that don't include all of the ATSC standard resolutions.

 

LOL @ people saying this crap STILL.

CRYEngine 3 eats and any PS360 game we have seen. In effects, lighting and the like. About Halo 3 the main reason why it was low res was because it's the ONLY game on this gen console to have 2 frame buffers. 1 for HDR 1 for LDR. Hence why it's the most visceral colourful game on HD consoles. LOL @ 360 cant do proper HDR lighting. The following video laughs at the sad people who ever claimed PS360 was maxed. And clearly shows 360 would have no problem handling Killzone 2.