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For those laying blame on Sony. This article isn't about that, although Sony does have some blame.

This is from my blog:

To those interested. I did not explore Sony’s role in all this simply because this article was written to explore the JRPG developers decisions and how it was in detriment to themselves.



PREDICTION:

60M PS3's by the end of it's Life Span (Anything between 5 to 10 years)

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Baki said:
For those laying blame on Sony. This article isn't about that, although Sony does have some blame.

This is from my blog:

To those interested. I did not explore Sony’s role in all this simply because this article was written to explore the JRPG developers decisions and how it was in detriment to themselves.

The JRPGs sell piss poor in the West even on the DS, no need to blame the developers for the lack of consumers.

 



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I'll call bullshit, (again). Who's writing these articles as of late. They've gone from terrible to "welcome to gaming journalism".

I call bs on the ports bit, ANY JRPG lover doesn't care less if the port is a year late, they would still buy it. There is no solid proof of a JRPG popularity on the PS3, I'd like to know where it's getting it's numbers from excluding japan.

What JRPG fan would turn down the opportunity to play a port of a game released a year earlier on a machine that has virtually zero of them?

NONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



I agree that JRPG's are selling like crap this gen but I know companies like S-E didn't loose much if any money on these games and M$ made sure of that...



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Microsoft probably made mistakes in judgment when drafting their contracts giving payouts to SE for releasing games on 360.

If SE is getting some kind of lump payment from MS, it gives SE an incentive to just put out mediocre games, quickly, and move on, having pocketed the MS money.

I don't think SE would have agreed to an arrangement under which they made good money *only if* the 360 game sold well, as that was just too unlikely to happen.  Best in that case to release on PS3 as well, since it has 3x the install base in Japan.  But MS wanted to say 360 was the JRPG console, so they went forward buying JRPGs.  And now SE is humbled and Mistwalker has lost tons of its thunder and JRPG developers are having to deal with the fallout.

 

Funny how Zenfoldor interprets the above as Sony failing fans due to greed.



Their actions have caused Japanese gamers to be alienated, and stunted the growth of the Playstation 3 in Japan. This confusion has caused a lot of Japanese gamers to either remain with their PS2 or upgrade to the Wii. Because of this, what could have been a viable platform (the Playstation 3) is no longer a viable platform.

Whoever wrote this is pretty clueless if they think this is the reason that the Wii is selling so well.



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Baggins said:
I'll call bullshit, (again). Who's writing these articles as of late. They've gone from terrible to "welcome to gaming journalism".

I call bs on the ports bit, ANY JRPG lover doesn't care less if the port is a year late, they would still buy it. There is no solid proof of a JRPG popularity on the PS3, I'd like to know where it's getting it's numbers from excluding japan.

What JRPG fan would turn down the opportunity to play a port of a game released a year earlier on a machine that has virtually zero of them?

NONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Well if you look at sales of Eternal Sonata, and that other JRPG then you'd notice that the year late port did not sell that well on the PS3. Regarding JRPG fans that do that, ask them, not me? I merely analyse the statistics.

Look at Bioshock PS3 as well, the sales of that game were far from substantial.

 

Regarding proof that JRPG's sell well on the PS3. Well disregarding the fact that the userbase is three times larger than the Xbox 360, just look at some of sales for the JRPG's released exclusively on the PS3.

Disgea 3, a niche, 2D game sold about the same as its PS2 counterparts.

Demon Souls, barely a JRPG sold about 100,000.

White Knight Chronicles, got average reviews from Famitus and it sold 300,000+

dolemit3 said:
Baki said:
For those laying blame on Sony. This article isn't about that, although Sony does have some blame.

This is from my blog:

To those interested. I did not explore Sony’s role in all this simply because this article was written to explore the JRPG developers decisions and how it was in detriment to themselves.

The JRPGs sell piss poor in the West even on the DS, no need to blame the developers for the lack of consumers.

 


I already acknowledged this fact in the article. The point I was making was that the companies were reducing the userbase of their only viable market, which is Japan.

PREDICTION:

60M PS3's by the end of it's Life Span (Anything between 5 to 10 years)

theRepublic said:

Their actions have caused Japanese gamers to be alienated, and stunted the growth of the Playstation 3 in Japan. This confusion has caused a lot of Japanese gamers to either remain with their PS2 or upgrade to the Wii. Because of this, what could have been a viable platform (the Playstation 3) is no longer a viable platform.

Whoever wrote this is pretty clueless if they think this is the reason that the Wii is selling so well.

 

That wasn't my intention at all. I was simply stating what the gamers Japan were doing. Ofcourse that isn't the sole reason why people are buying the Wii. Its obviously the DS/PS2 audience that is buying into the Wii.



PREDICTION:

60M PS3's by the end of it's Life Span (Anything between 5 to 10 years)

Baki said:
theRepublic said:

Their actions have caused Japanese gamers to be alienated, and stunted the growth of the Playstation 3 in Japan. This confusion has caused a lot of Japanese gamers to either remain with their PS2 or upgrade to the Wii. Because of this, what could have been a viable platform (the Playstation 3) is no longer a viable platform.

Whoever wrote this is pretty clueless if they think this is the reason that the Wii is selling so well.

 

That wasn't my intention at all. I was simply stating what the gamers Japan were doing. Ofcourse that isn't the sole reason why people are buying the Wii. Its obviously the DS/PS2 audience that is buying into the Wii.

So when you said that gamers were confused into buying the Wii, and that this killed the viability of the Playstation 3, you didn't mean that?