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Pristine20 on 22 March 2009
bdbdbd said:
@Pristine: But the thing is, that currently PS3 is doing exceptionally good in Japan and Wii doing exceptionally bad at the same time.

As for the pricecut, if Sony cuts the price to sell the product at even more loss, at the same time it's sacking staff, may cause some serious issues with the union.

 

The thing with the price cut is that I think a huge factor in the losses now is the fact that currencies (euro, dollar) have fluctuated about 40% against the yen. I base this off an article someone posted that said nintendo's profits were down 40% or something like that. That fluctuation doesn't affect Japanese sales so if they can cut the price anywhere, JP makes the most sense IMO.

The wii has been slowing down for a while in JP. It could be boosted by some great new software lik MH3 but I doubt it would ever return to it's previous levels so I won't call it's sales "exceptionally bad" more like "the new trend". I do agree that the ps3 is doing exceptionally well though but the reasons for it (software) seem somewhat steady throughout the year so it has some potential. A price cut towards the holiday season would do wonders in this region since they do seem to have significant interest in the ps3.



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"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

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Pristine20 on 22 March 2009
Soriku said:
Pristine20 said:
bdbdbd said:
@Pristine: But the thing is, that currently PS3 is doing exceptionally good in Japan and Wii doing exceptionally bad at the same time.

As for the pricecut, if Sony cuts the price to sell the product at even more loss, at the same time it's sacking staff, may cause some serious issues with the union.

 

The thing with the price cut is that I think a huge factor in the losses now is the fact that currencies (euro, dollar) have fluctuated about 40% against the yen. I base this off an article someone posted that said nintendo's profits were down 40% or something like that. That fluctuation doesn't affect Japanese sales so if they can cut the price anywhere, JP makes the most sense IMO.

The wii has been slowing down for a while in JP. It could be boosted by some great new software lik MH3 but I doubt it would ever return to it's previous levels so I won't call it's sales "exceptionally bad" more like "the new trend". I do agree that the ps3 is doing exceptionally well though but the reasons for it (software) seem somewhat steady throughout the year so it has some potential. A price cut towards the holiday season would do wonders in this region since they do seem to have significant interest in the ps3.

 

Well, it's no surprise they have interest in the PS3 now because of its streak in big releases. The Wii needs big releases and it should do good and not bad like it is now. But I wish Nintendo/Capcom would do a Wii Sports bundle and a MH3 bundle in Japan. A casual and core bundle would do wonders IMO. I don't really think the Wii situation is that worrying with the big games coming out for it (and some moderate games) and they can always do redesigns, price drops (not sure how inclined they'd do this, at least not now), colors/limited edition consoles like a MH Wii or something, and Motion Plus+. The Wii has so many opportunities to raise its sales.

I don't think redesigns and colors are that huge a factor with consoles. The wii was selling very well previously even with no big release. It's slowdown was gradual not immediate like the ps3 and 360 have been when they had no big releases. This is why I think the big names like MH3 would only boost hardware for a few weeks followed by a drop right back to where it was previously. I don't even think wii sports resort will boost it significantly but I could be wrong.

I really think the days of consistent 40-50K wii sales/week are over and nothing can return it to that state.

 



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

Skittles on 22 March 2009

Why are people counting MH3 for 2009? Hasn't even been giving a release date yet.(heard some funny things about it though)

I believe the PS3 will, sell more than the Wii this year.(in total units)



Prediction:

TGS this year for PS3 will be amazing.

Grandia comes to PSN(PSone classic).

First Versus gameplay this year.

The Adventures Of Duane and Brando

Neoraf on 22 March 2009

Can PS3 outsell the Wii in Japan in 2009?

I really hope so.
The PS3 is a far better console than the Wii.

The PS3 deserves it.
Imo, the Wii is a fad.



     

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Pristine20 on 22 March 2009
Soriku said:
Skittles said:
Why are people counting MH3 for 2009? Hasn't even been giving a release date yet.(heard some funny things about it though)

I believe the PS3 will, sell more than the Wii this year.(in total units)

 

Yes it has. It's releasing in June.

@pristine

Yeah, but at the same time the PS3/360 didn't have so many notable releases consistently like this year either. The recent big PS3/360 games may have caused the Wii to lose steam.

I really don't think the PS360 and wii are in "direct" competition to the point of cannibalizing wii sales. It simply got old. JP has "finicky" tastes. PS3 and 360 still drop right back after their software boosts and these never affected the wii before.

 



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

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Skittles on 22 March 2009
Soriku said:
Skittles said:
Why are people counting MH3 for 2009? Hasn't even been giving a release date yet.(heard some funny things about it though)

I believe the PS3 will, sell more than the Wii this year.(in total units)

 

Yes it has. It's releasing in June.

@pristine

Yeah, but at the same time the PS3/360 didn't have so many notable releases consistently like this year either. The recent big PS3/360 games may have caused the Wii to lose steam.

Link?

 



Prediction:

TGS this year for PS3 will be amazing.

Grandia comes to PSN(PSone classic).

First Versus gameplay this year.

The Adventures Of Duane and Brando

frybread on 22 March 2009

PS3 has Blu Ray, Wii doesn't.

PS3 will win



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ClaudeLv250 on 22 March 2009
Neoraf said:
Can PS3 outsell the Wii in Japan in 2009?

I really hope so.
The PS3 is a far better console than the Wii.

The PS3 deserves it.
Imo, the Wii is a fad.

The moon is a fad.

It's only been circling the Earth for a gajillion years. One day it's either going to plummet into the Earth or spin out of orbit. And when it does....FAD OVER!

IMO, of course.



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bdbdbd on 22 March 2009

@Pristine: I do agree that Japan is in the best position to have a pricecut, but for the pricecut to come into realisation would require PS3 sold at a profit before the cut (it of course is possible in Japan at the moment). And even if it would be sold at a profit, in the current situation of Sony makes the cut a bit hard.

And yes, Wii has been trending down most likely due to 3rd party big hitters effectively evading the console with nothing big, aside from Wii Music that didn't perform up to expectations, from Nintendo either. Basically PS3 is performing about the same as always when system selling games are out, maybe slightly better, and Wii is experiencing a system seller drought at the moment. That's why exceptionally high and low.



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Eikä Japanisti.

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Dampfi on 22 March 2009

No chance! MH1+3 and Wii Sports 2 will give the Wii a huge boost again.