Star Ocean 4 sales tanked because the game is garbage. Infinite Undiscovery was more enjoyable than this drek. I miss my $60, wish I could go spend it on a good game.

LMAO. Quote of the year.

Anyway, it will be interesting to see if Star Ocean really was the last hope for Microsoft. It's no good for JRPG makers to continue putting their big series exclusively on a console where nobody buys them, even if they are getting paid. Becoming dependent on subsidies from a Microsoft that doesn't seem all that committed to its own console is a loser in the long run for them.

@Soriku:

I can also be sure that neither of these games will do well in the West, and that's what this thread is about - North American SO4 sales.

What for Japan - I can assure you that even after all these games you mentioned get released DS and PSP will still be getting a lot more jRPG games than the Wii.

No offense Soriku, but I agree with Rei. By saying that the 360 can't sell JRPGs, you're pretty much also saying that the PS3 and Wii can't either. There are somewhat similar sales between the three consoles with a few exceptions (Dragon Quest which sold because of the name, not the console, and Lost Odyssey, the only true success so far this gen). You can ignore these facts if you want, but as of now, the Wii is a failure, just as the 360/PS3 are. It's even worse for the Wii if the install base argument isn't ignored. Will this change in the future with the games that you listed? Probably...but as of now, the only success is Lost Odyssey, and White Knight Chronicles is the only game coming out in the near future that has a shot at being a success as well.

      Tales of Symphonia II would have been a success imo if it hadn't been slammed by reviewers like the one at IGN.

Let us wait for an exclusive JRPG to release on the PS3 before claiming what it can and can not sell. Not the much more niche SJRPG genre and/or 1 year late multiplatform ports.

@Soriku:

MH is not a jRPG. Dragon Quest X - I said outside of the mighty trio (FF-KH-DQ) I expect and want DQX to be a success in the West, but just like in case of FFXIII on the PS3 - it is just one game, it isnt going to make other devs switch back to consoles from handhelds.

And there is nothing I can suggest for console jRPG devs. Whatever they do will either not work or will piss off their existing fanbase. There is a thread at neogaf discussing what can be done to increase console jRPGs popularity. I think nothing can be done and outside of big franchises devs will just move away from consoles more and more.

sorry but this is one ofthe most stupid things I've heared in this site

Stupid? how so?

why does the FPS genre needs to be taken done ??

and what does it have to do with JRPGs ??