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Megadude said:
Upscaled DVD looks grainey on my LCD. Some people say they can't tell the difference. Some people cant tell the difference between a bird and a dildo. They are blind.

@ Twesterm: What's with the agenda? Banning people for talking about RROD, calling people fanboys because they enjoy bluray? kk

 

Agenda?  If you want to talk about your ban, PM me or naz, no need to bring it up here. 

And why would I call people fanboys for liking BluRay?  I myself like BluRay and even said so above if you had bothered reading the posts (it even says it in the first sentence of my first post).  The people that I did say have fanboy blinders are the ones that refuse to acknowledge that BluRay does have its fair share of flaws.

  • Price.  It's more expensive and only marginally better in many peoples eyes
  • It's not as portable.  While you might have one BluRay player you probably have many things that play DVD'a
  • Up-conversion.  To people that aren't trained to see the high amount of detail they don't see or care about the difference between an upscaped DVD and a BluRay 1080p movie.
  • Not all movies are available.  If someone is going to buy a BluRay player they probably want to watch the movies they want.  If the movies they want aren't coming out for it or the older movies they might want aren't released on BluRay, what is their incentive to spend the money?

 



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Cypher1980 said:
I dont remember any resistance to DVD's

I just remember people collectively saying thank god and Blockbusters couldnt wait to regear for the new format.

BluRay really is just DVD 1.5

Your memory is faulty.

http://adequacy.org/stories/2001.8.24.112921.289.html

http://www.thevoiceofreason.com/2005/09/ReasonsVHSBetterThanDVDs.htm

http://www.helium.com/items/344466-why-vhs-tapes-are-better-than-dvds

 

You seem to be where the VHS people were/are.  It's funny how history just repeats itself.

 

 



twesterm said:
Megadude said:
Upscaled DVD looks grainey on my LCD. Some people say they can't tell the difference. Some people cant tell the difference between a bird and a dildo. They are blind.

@ Twesterm: What's with the agenda? Banning people for talking about RROD, calling people fanboys because they enjoy bluray? kk

 

Agenda?  If you want to talk about your ban, PM me or naz, no need to bring it up here. 

And why would I call people fanboys for liking BluRay?  I myself like BluRay and even said so above if you had bothered reading the posts (it even says it in the first sentence of my first post).  The people that I did say have fanboy blinders are the ones that refuse to acknowledge that BluRay does have its fair share of flaws.

  • Price.  It's more expensive and only marginally better in many peoples eyes
  • It's not as portable.  While you might have one BluRay player you probably have many things that play DVD'a
  • Up-conversion.  To people that aren't trained to see the high amount of detail they don't see or care about the difference between an upscaped DVD and a BluRay 1080p movie.
  • Not all movies are available.  If someone is going to buy a BluRay player they probably want to watch the movies they want.  If the movies they want aren't coming out for it or the older movies they might want aren't released on BluRay, what is their incentive to spend the money?

 

Most of those were arguments for VHS over DVD (see links in my post above).  What happened in time, though?

BTW, what do you mean "trained to see the high amounts of detail"?  That's ridiculous!  The AVERAGE human eyes sees about 9 to 10 MILLION pixels.  Blu-ray is 2 million pixels.  DVD is 345K pixels.  So, that argument of yours is only for the misinformed.

 



Ascended_Saiyan3 said:
Cypher1980 said:
I dont remember any resistance to DVD's

I just remember people collectively saying thank god and Blockbusters couldnt wait to regear for the new format.

BluRay really is just DVD 1.5

Your memory is faulty.

http://adequacy.org/stories/2001.8.24.112921.289.html

http://www.thevoiceofreason.com/2005/09/ReasonsVHSBetterThanDVDs.htm

http://www.helium.com/items/344466-why-vhs-tapes-are-better-than-dvds

 

You seem to be where the VHS people were/are.  It's funny how history just repeats itself.

 

 


This is super win pwn quote of the year. Haters fail like HD-DVD. If you cannot see the bluray difference then you cannot SEE! /Thread.

DVD drives play discs at faster speed rates than Blu-Ray players. Only advantage BD has over the DVD is 6 or 7 times more storage capcity. Most of the extra content put on a BD is usless anyway. 80% of people in the world do not own HD Tvs that get the benefits out of PS3 Blu-Ray in 1080p. DVDs on SD Tvs are more than enough for a lot of people through out the world.

If most movies and games only require a DVD disc of up to 7 to 8GB. What is the point of putting it on a 50GB BD? It would be waste IMO. BDs are around 5 to 10 times more expensive than DVDs as well. If it costs only $1 for a DVD it costs $5 to $10 for a Blu-Ray disc.



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Ascended_Saiyan3 said:
twesterm said:
Megadude said:
Upscaled DVD looks grainey on my LCD. Some people say they can't tell the difference. Some people cant tell the difference between a bird and a dildo. They are blind.

@ Twesterm: What's with the agenda? Banning people for talking about RROD, calling people fanboys because they enjoy bluray? kk

 

Agenda?  If you want to talk about your ban, PM me or naz, no need to bring it up here. 

And why would I call people fanboys for liking BluRay?  I myself like BluRay and even said so above if you had bothered reading the posts (it even says it in the first sentence of my first post).  The people that I did say have fanboy blinders are the ones that refuse to acknowledge that BluRay does have its fair share of flaws.

  • Price.  It's more expensive and only marginally better in many peoples eyes
  • It's not as portable.  While you might have one BluRay player you probably have many things that play DVD'a
  • Up-conversion.  To people that aren't trained to see the high amount of detail they don't see or care about the difference between an upscaped DVD and a BluRay 1080p movie.
  • Not all movies are available.  If someone is going to buy a BluRay player they probably want to watch the movies they want.  If the movies they want aren't coming out for it or the older movies they might want aren't released on BluRay, what is their incentive to spend the money?

 

Most of those were arguments for VHS over DVD (see links in my post above).  What happened in time, though?

BTW, what do you mean "trained to see the high amounts of detail"?  That's ridiculous!  The AVERAGE human eyes sees about 9 to 10 MILLION pixels.  Blu-ray is 2 million pixels.  DVD is 345K pixels.  So, that argument of yours is only for the misinformed.

 

 

So you want to bring up VHS to DVD and those points then?

  • Price-- DVD's are not just marginally better to the average person than VHS, they are astronomically better.  No rewindings, greatly improved quality that anyone can see, more space, chapter skipping, menu's, more durable.  It's a huge improvement in every way over VHS.   It was very much worth the price difference.
  • Portability-- True, DVD devices were more just like BluRay devices are more today but portability wasn't an issue then.  You didn't have a VHS player in your gaming system, computer, and in the 10 Tv's in your house.  You could buy one DVD player and be good and not really worry about it.
  • Not All Movies available-- Two years after DVD hit main stream every movie was coming out on DVD.  I'll be nice though and give this point, though with the other points, the positives far outweigh the negatives.

And the training comment, "hardcore" gamers look for things like high resolution, your "girlfriend" doesn't.  Those people who don't normally look for those things aren't going to see them.  It would help if you actually read all of a post before commenting on it.



numonex said:

DVD drives play discs at faster speed rates than Blu-Ray players. Only advantage BD has over the DVD is 6 or 7 times more storage capcity. Most of the extra content put on a BD is usless anyway. 80% of people in the world do not own HD Tvs that get the benefits out of PS3 Blu-Ray in 1080p. DVDs on SD Tvs are more than enough for a lot of people through out the world.

If most movies and games only require a DVD disc of up to 7 to 8GB. What is the point of putting it on a 50GB BD? It would be waste IMO. BDs are around 5 to 10 times more expensive than DVDs as well. If it costs only $1 for a DVD it costs $5 to $10 for a Blu-Ray disc.

This post is so filled with incorrect information, I hardly know where to begin.

1x DVD = 11Mbps

1xBlu-ray = 36Mbps (Blu-ray movies are played at 1.5x or 54Mbps) about 6Mbps is overhead which leaves a constant 48Mbps for video and audio.

When those SD TVs go out, those people will most likely buy an HDTV (it is making up the majority of the market now).

 

At 6x the amount of video detail and 10x the audio detail that DVD has, you need a HUGE storage medium. 

BDs are NOT 5 to 10 times more expensive to make than DVDs either.  Blu-ray discs weren't even 10x the amount of DVDs at launch!  The DVD manufacturing process is 11 steps.  Blu-ray's manufacturing process is 5 steps.  That means LESS equipment to buy and maintain.  That also means LESS leased space needed to make them.  That means that Blu-rays WILL become CHEAPER to produce than DVDs IN TIME.

Some people forget how much DVDs USE TO COST.  I remember because I paid for them back when they use to come in CD cases and cost $5 MORE on average than Blu-ray's cost me now.

DVD burners for computers USE to cost $3,000 and more.  I bet you don't remember that either.  How many times to these people have to be on the WRONG side of history before they...get it?!

 



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