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johnsobas said:
leo-j said:
Oh and to be on topic, they dont owe nintendo crap. They owe sony for bringing there company to life.

this whole topic is stupid, and arguing with 15 year olds is useless.  Square doesn't owe anyone anything, especially Sony.  Sony did not bring them to life, i can't believe i'm even reading this.  Sony depended on Square probably more than Square even depended on Sony during the PS1 days, but that doesn't mean either of them owe each other anything.  In all of these cases they helped each other, then moved on, now Square is making games for all consoles.


You got me mad at the beginning but the rest I agree with. They both helped each other out.



 

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This is all good and stuff, but i do not EVER want to see a FF game go that far down in graphic quality =( i really dont, FF has always been a major game that needs fantastic graphics, also unless they find some really cool way with remote, then it should stay on ps3 and 360, because turn based etc, just takes moving up and down and selecting a move'

KH 3 is another story, though i do want good graphics, not as much as on FF

DQ 9 can go to wii, since graphics dont mean anything ~-~



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SE owes Nintendo nothing if anything Nintendo owes SE for how they were treated by Nintendo during the SNES days.If anyone owes anyone anything then R*,Capcom and SE owe Sony for where they are today from small time TP's to MASSIVE TP's.
The PS3 doesnt have many TP exclusives yet most come next year or have just been announced but Sony came in with no FP's and thats why they got all the TP's to develop for PS1 and PS2 but during PS2 era Sony was busy building the 3rd largest game developing company in the world and its now going to pay off if TP's dont want to develop for PS3 then so be it Sony FP's games are stunning and are all different,example:LittleBigPlanet and R:FoM they are completly different.Nintendo or MS doesnt have that diversity in their games yes they have diversity but compared to Sony's diversity they have nothing.



End of 2014 Hardware Predictions (03/03/14)

PlayStation 4: 12-15million

Xbox One: 7-10 million

Wii U: 8-9 million (Changed 01/04/2014 from 7-9 --> 8-9 million)

For what it's worth, I'm a big FF fan, but won't buy a PS3 just for FF13, they'll need a lot more games. And I'm pretty sure there are more gamers like me who like FF, but won't buy a console just for 1 or 2 games.



Lost tears of Kain said:
This is all good and stuff, but i do not EVER want to see a FF game go that far down in graphic quality =( i really dont, FF has always been a major game that needs fantastic graphics, also unless they find some really cool way with remote, then it should stay on ps3 and 360, because turn based etc, just takes moving up and down and selecting a move'

KH 3 is another story, though i do want good graphics, not as much as on FF

DQ 9 can go to wii, since graphics dont mean anything ~-~

Actually, it's only been that way since FF7.  Ever play Final Fantasy for the NES?  The enemies used three colors.  Bosses were allowed six colors.



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um SE has made 75% of its games in the past year or so for the DS.



Xyrax said:
Nintendo treated 3rd parties like crap back in the day, Square owes them nothing because of that. No matter how close to BK they were, still doesnt excuse Nintendos policies back then. Nintendo deserved the ass kicking they got when Sony came on the scene and showed the industry how important 3rd parties were to a consoles success by treating them fairly. Now Nintendo is a better company because of it.

wasn't square support for sure...

was the tekken

was the wipeout

was the granturismo

was the resident evil

and the end was PIRACY AMONG CASUALS...

ff7 was good

but square enix is only the shadow of old squaresoft...

 

policy fo 3rd parties???

let's speak about snes support????

 

the reality is only that sony simply cover with money some third parties...

psygnosis???

someone remember them???

 

and microsoft now is on the same path...

 

this is not 3rd party support...

this is killing the market.

 

i'm very happy now that the best ideas come on wii and on ds.

 so we can see which are the real innovating 3rd parties...

 

IF square-enix will come with an new and original game on wii ok,IF NOT i will not miss them...

 I leave  j-rpg for hikikomori/loosers to other consoles...

 

they complaint about cd in n64 era

recently they complaint about ds shipping in ds era

 we still waiting for a real decent game from square enix on a nintendo console from snes era!!!!

 

wii is last chance for them...

 

Nintendo really do not need them.

 

so I don't want to wait for their return any more...

 

 

 



DQ 9 is for DS. That's your main series.



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Lost tears of Kain said:
This is all good and stuff, but i do not EVER want to see a FF game go that far down in graphic quality =( i really dont, FF has always been a major game that needs fantastic graphics,

 i don't think that a j-rpg game has to be judged by graphics!!!

to explain:

if this is the way,square should have moved it to xbox or gamecube in last gen!!!

because ps2 grapghics really sucks compared to xbox or gamecube graphics...

 if the problem of sqaure making an FF game is:

"we have to choose the best grapghics for our major game"

so the best graphics in last gen was not on ps2!!!!

 

 



This graphics thing is old and i mean really old like PS1 era old and even then the PS1 wasnt the best in graphics its only since the PS3 came with all its graphical power that this arguement has arisen.I DO NOT stand by this arguement its meaningless and doesnt make any sense.
FFVII went to PS1 because of CD functionality and Nintendo being idiots back then,FFVIII and FFIX followed.FFX went to PS2 because of 1.success and 2.FFVII-IX were on PS1.FFXIII is on PS3 because of 1.they thought it would be immediately successful. 2.TheWhiteEngine works with ONLY PS3 now it used to only work with PS2 but they optimised it and it now only works with PS3. 3.It would cost too much to switch over to another console. 4.FFXIII was originally planned for PS2 so it only makes sense to go to PS3. 5.the success of FFX-FFXII on PS2.
FF is PS3 this gen and it wont change until nextgen because has SE said "We like to use the best graphics when it comes to FF, it lets us express our imaginations more fully".
I wouldnt like FF to suddenly go to Wii because of the sudden graphics downgrade from what it is on PS3 and i dont like the Wiimote its too sensitive even if you change the settings its still too sensitive,its also not always responsive but i can forgive Nintendo for the responsive thing its very rare but the sensitive thing is all the time especicially in CoD3(Wii).
FF nextgen can go where it likes i will eventually pick up the console with FF on like i picked up a DS for FFIII and i downloaded a SNESemulator for FF and ChronoTrigger(which is AMAZING best RPG ever story,characters,size of the world for a SNES game is very BIG,timetravelling should be in more games).



End of 2014 Hardware Predictions (03/03/14)

PlayStation 4: 12-15million

Xbox One: 7-10 million

Wii U: 8-9 million (Changed 01/04/2014 from 7-9 --> 8-9 million)