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Procrastinato on 16 March 2009
Smashchu2 said:
Xxain said:
^plz stop...I HATE when people say that, SONY's havin a rough time thats it

Stop what? Stating the obvious?

The truth is Sony is bleeding money, especially their game sector. If you didn't notice, the Playstation sector is being merged with two other sectors. If it were as strong as some people want it to be, it would have been it's own division.

I think this is a good sign of the Playstation brand going niche.

You didn't actually read Sony's financial report this last quarter, did you?

The merge was likely done to save the behind of the division it was merged with, not the other way around.  Sony didn't have much in the way of profitable divisions, but... one guess which division was in the black, while many of the others were red?  Or, you could not guess, and just read the report yourself.



 

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Pristine20 on 16 March 2009

How 'bout we cut the prices of video game software instead to encourage consumers to buy more? I'm sure the publishers will love that one. It's easy to ask a company to cut prices when it's not your money. If they wre making a profit on the console, I'd understand but they're already absorbing losses.



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Infamy79 on 17 March 2009
shanbcn said:
With GTA IV sales 50/50 and RE5 sales 55/45 in favor of PS3. I don't think Publishers are in any position to put pressure on Sony.

Ummm, GTA 4 sales are not 50-50, the 360 version has sold close to 1.5 million more copies than the PS3 version

 



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frybread on 17 March 2009

BLOOMBERG IS PAID OFF BY NINTENDO, THE ARTICLE IS A LIE

 

What's really great about this article is that it puts PS3 and Wii fans against each other.  The worse the PS3 does, the higher the production values for Wii games, and vice versa.

 

Come on Sony, don't drop that price!



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Arius Dion on 17 March 2009
frybread said:

BLOOMBERG IS PAID OFF BY NINTENDO, THE ARTICLE IS A LIE

 

What's really great about this article is that it puts PS3 and Wii fans against each other.  The worse the PS3 does, the higher the production values for Wii games, and vice versa.

 

Come on Sony, don't drop that price!

 

 I guess that means they are competing now?



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dib8rman on 17 March 2009

^No Sony is still market leader... if you add PSX (20 year plan),Ps2 (15 year plan),Ps3(10 year plan), PSP (all of them 13 year plans) and Pocket Station (14 year plans) LTD sales versus Wii or Xbox360.

V_V I'm just confused why the article used gaming culture jargon as a co-subject for sustaining an arguement. This isn't the 7th gen.



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NightAntilli on 17 March 2009

I don't think Sony will drop the price anytime soon, especially now that they seem to have a stronger line-up this year than Microsoft.



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sinha on 22 March 2009
Darc Requiem said:
sinha said:

 

"PS3 sales in the next 12 months are likely to total 14 million, compared with 28 million Wiis and 9.7 million Xbox 360s, according to the Daiwa Institute of Research, a Tokyo-based researcher and consultant."

 

I'm confused... why would Sony need to drop the price when they're already going to outsell the 360 by 4.3 million over the next 12 months?

 

 

I'm curious as to why anyone would think the PS3 would outsell the 360 by any amount at this point. Since MS is based in the US, they are actually in the best position to institute a price cut. So even if Sony could find a way, MS would likely counter with a price cut of their own. This would nullify most of if not all of the potential sales gain the PS3 would see from a price cut. The PS3 couldn't outsell the 360 last year and honestly I think that was their best shot to gain any ground. If Sony could have cut the price, they would have last holiday season. There is no way they'd let MS pound them like that during the busiest part of the shopping year.

 



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NJ5 on 22 March 2009
sinha said:
Darc Requiem said:
sinha said:

 

"PS3 sales in the next 12 months are likely to total 14 million, compared with 28 million Wiis and 9.7 million Xbox 360s, according to the Daiwa Institute of Research, a Tokyo-based researcher and consultant."

 

I'm confused... why would Sony need to drop the price when they're already going to outsell the 360 by 4.3 million over the next 12 months?

 

 

I'm curious as to why anyone would think the PS3 would outsell the 360 by any amount at this point. Since MS is based in the US, they are actually in the best position to institute a price cut. So even if Sony could find a way, MS would likely counter with a price cut of their own. This would nullify most of if not all of the potential sales gain the PS3 would see from a price cut. The PS3 couldn't outsell the 360 last year and honestly I think that was their best shot to gain any ground. If Sony could have cut the price, they would have last holiday season. There is no way they'd let MS pound them like that during the busiest part of the shopping year.

 

If I'm reading it right, the PS3 should be at 40+ million right now, correct?

 



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Slimebeast on 22 March 2009

I think price drop $50 in April.

Sony is a big company, they have no risk of going bankrupt despite what NJ5 says. Sony made profit for decades in a row. Investors know this, and they know that the current world economical crysis is an overgoing phenomenon. In one year from now world economy will have stabilized.

The Playstation brand and marketshare is important for Sony. They can afford a little loss on consoles sold, because in the long run they will make the money back from all the Playstation fans that will choose their future HD TVs, cameras and laptops from Sony instead of other electronic companies.