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You have to remember that Sony stated Nintendo online service as limited.



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Epoch said:
NanakiXI said:
Shouldn't this read "50% of 360 gamers play online. Greater than Wii & PS3 online."?

Anyway isn't enough to me to prove that these are correct throughout the U.S. let alone the world. Believe it or not some cities in the U.S. can be a city of fanboys where the Wii/360/PS3 can be more popular. Were these people chosen at random around the U.S.?

Either way impressive all around good and numbers for PS3 and Wii will get bigger as install base gets larger. Pretty good for new online services (PS3 & Wii). Now all we need is sales of PSN to be able to identify the stressfulness of their service.

It doesn't even say that.  See my previous posts.  This data is poorly constructed and misleading.

 

 

Sorry didn't feel like reading all the post :P

I see what you mean and it is very misleading. Thanks for pointing that out.



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Yakuzaice said:
Epoch said:
Yakuzaice said:

It also seems the 19% last year and 25% this year is growth, not total percentage of people who game online.  The article on gamespot has that as 57%.  Or at least I assume that is correct as the Gamespot article's update seemed to be in regards to those numbers.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6205841.html

Not quite.  Statistics can be misleading.  Here we go:

"We start with the pool that play games (61 percent of population ages 2 and over)," NPD analyst Anita Frazier explained to GameSpot." 

Read: Of the total population of (I'm assuming) N.A. over the age of 2, 61% play some form of electronic gaming device.

Edit:  And if they polled 20,000 people and 5,000 played games online, then it does mean that the % rose from 19% to 25% of the general population.

"Of those, 57 percent play online."

Read: So thats actually 57% of the 61% who play games.  Or roughly 35% of the general population. 

Which means: That out of EVERYONE who plays an electronic gaming device, 43% DON'T play online.  This includes the PC as well.

 

Was the 5000 number ever actually stated by the NPD though?  Or was that just assumed based on the 25% figure.

I realize that the 57% is just out of the gaming subset of the population.

After looking around a little more, it seems few sources totally understood the numbers.  Some say half of the 20,000 play online on the 360.  Some agree with Gamespot, others with Arstechnica, etc.

Anyways, it seems to be....

61% of the population 2 years and older play games.
57% of those gamers play online
2008 saw a 19% increase over 2007
2009 has seen a 25% increase over 2008
Out of the 57% of gamers who play games online...
87% play on PC
50% play on 360
29% play on Wii
20% play on PS3


87+50+29+20 does not equal 100. but 50+29+20 is very close



Max King of the Wild said:
Yakuzaice said:
Epoch said:
Yakuzaice said:

It also seems the 19% last year and 25% this year is growth, not total percentage of people who game online.  The article on gamespot has that as 57%.  Or at least I assume that is correct as the Gamespot article's update seemed to be in regards to those numbers.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6205841.html

Not quite.  Statistics can be misleading.  Here we go:

"We start with the pool that play games (61 percent of population ages 2 and over)," NPD analyst Anita Frazier explained to GameSpot." 

Read: Of the total population of (I'm assuming) N.A. over the age of 2, 61% play some form of electronic gaming device.

Edit:  And if they polled 20,000 people and 5,000 played games online, then it does mean that the % rose from 19% to 25% of the general population.

"Of those, 57 percent play online."

Read: So thats actually 57% of the 61% who play games.  Or roughly 35% of the general population. 

Which means: That out of EVERYONE who plays an electronic gaming device, 43% DON'T play online.  This includes the PC as well.

 

Was the 5000 number ever actually stated by the NPD though?  Or was that just assumed based on the 25% figure.

I realize that the 57% is just out of the gaming subset of the population.

After looking around a little more, it seems few sources totally understood the numbers.  Some say half of the 20,000 play online on the 360.  Some agree with Gamespot, others with Arstechnica, etc.

Anyways, it seems to be....

61% of the population 2 years and older play games.
57% of those gamers play online
2008 saw a 19% increase over 2007
2009 has seen a 25% increase over 2008
Out of the 57% of gamers who play games online...
87% play on PC
50% play on 360
29% play on Wii
20% play on PS3


87+50+29+20 does not equal 100. but 50+29+20 is very close

It would only equal 100 if every person they asked only owned a single system.  The PS2 probably still has a decent amount as well.

 



Yakuzaice said:

Was the 5000 number ever actually stated by the NPD though?  Or was that just assumed based on the 25% figure.

I realize that the 57% is just out of the gaming subset of the population.

After looking around a little more, it seems few sources totally understood the numbers.  Some say half of the 20,000 play online on the 360.  Some agree with Gamespot, others with Arstechnica, etc.

Anyways, it seems to be....

61% of the population 2 years and older play games.
57% of those gamers play online
2008 saw a 19% increase over 2007
2009 has seen a 25% increase over 2008
Out of the 57% of gamers who play games online...
87% play on PC
50% play on 360
29% play on Wii
20% play on PS3

That's a fair interpretation.  But people read into the bolded #'s too much.  The bolded numbers are more of a (poor) marker of overall marketshare.  Some other interpretations:

Most households have a computer in them these days.  In order to play games online, you need the internet, and a gamer.  Because of the way this poll is conducted, the PC representation is very high because of the fact that both required factors are already present in nearly every household that does play games online.  I'm actually somewhat surprised the % for PC isn't higher, as I'm sure most gamers have played at least a flash game over the previous year.

Based on marketshare, the Wii is actually under represented, meaning that fewer wii gamers by % are going online.  Whereas the 360 appears to be over represented.  Which makes sense as the 360 has a good marketshare in N.A. and is geared towards online gamers.  Can't comment much on PS3, might be a little under represented for online presence based on marketshare, but I don't like to speculate on data that is already hideously vague.

 



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Yakuzaice said:
Max King of the Wild said:
Yakuzaice said:
Epoch said:
Yakuzaice said:

It also seems the 19% last year and 25% this year is growth, not total percentage of people who game online.  The article on gamespot has that as 57%.  Or at least I assume that is correct as the Gamespot article's update seemed to be in regards to those numbers.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6205841.html

Not quite.  Statistics can be misleading.  Here we go:

"We start with the pool that play games (61 percent of population ages 2 and over)," NPD analyst Anita Frazier explained to GameSpot." 

Read: Of the total population of (I'm assuming) N.A. over the age of 2, 61% play some form of electronic gaming device.

Edit:  And if they polled 20,000 people and 5,000 played games online, then it does mean that the % rose from 19% to 25% of the general population.

"Of those, 57 percent play online."

Read: So thats actually 57% of the 61% who play games.  Or roughly 35% of the general population. 

Which means: That out of EVERYONE who plays an electronic gaming device, 43% DON'T play online.  This includes the PC as well.

 

Was the 5000 number ever actually stated by the NPD though?  Or was that just assumed based on the 25% figure.

I realize that the 57% is just out of the gaming subset of the population.

After looking around a little more, it seems few sources totally understood the numbers.  Some say half of the 20,000 play online on the 360.  Some agree with Gamespot, others with Arstechnica, etc.

Anyways, it seems to be....

61% of the population 2 years and older play games.
57% of those gamers play online
2008 saw a 19% increase over 2007
2009 has seen a 25% increase over 2008
Out of the 57% of gamers who play games online...
87% play on PC
50% play on 360
29% play on Wii
20% play on PS3


87+50+29+20 does not equal 100. but 50+29+20 is very close

It would only equal 100 if every person they asked only owned a single system.

 


i would think that theyd either asked about the most played or treat multiconsoles as two different people. anyway 186% would mean almost everyone has more than one console... it would also mean that out of 20000 people they have at least 29000 consoles.... this is getting confusing



Alright, so I've come to the conlusion that this data should be wholely ignored by everyone and every credible news source, and just taken as a load of BS.  My reasons as follows:

So the poll consisted of 20,000 people, 5,000 of which played games online.  I can accept that, I have no reason to doubt it.  Of those 5,000 , at least 2,500 owned an xbox 360.  This is not representative of the general population. This would mean that (20,000/2,500) = 12.5 % of Americans own an x360.  Or approximately 37.5 million.  In the U.S.. Or wherever their BS sample was taken from.  And thats assuming that there weren't any 360 owners who didn't make it into the sample of 5,000 online gamers.

This is not even within the realm of statistically relevant.  Unless they took their poll directly from people who work for Microsoft, we know this data is likely completely fucked.

This "Press release" should have been ignored.

Edit: oh yea their other console data is fucked as well. PS3 = 5% = 15 Million,

Wii = 7.25% = 21.75 Million. Which is actually very close to the data VG has.  But that would mean that every Wii owner in the U.S. games online.

 

 



At this point I wish they had just released what platforms they owned, and which if any they played online for each of the 20,000 people.  It would be interesting to see how the systems overlapped.  i.e. what percent of people own all three current gen systems, etc.



Its fairly interesting over all. I am surprised so many online gamers actually use the Wii for online gaming. My guess is that Smash Bros and Mario Kart pull in a lot of players and up the percentage. What seems really strange to me is they have found such a low percentage of peopel who play online without owning a console. I am curious as to wht the PS2, PSP, and DS numbers were. For those curious I will link the actuall press release. Hopefully it will stop people from making ridiculous claims about how this report can't be right.

http://www.npd.com/press/releases/press_090310a.html



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