Do any of you realize that Halo Wars first week in NA will be in this weeks numbers? Therefore even though the PS3 may see a boost in Japan the 360 may see a slight boost in NA.

Still no "official" price drop, although the only one I see that possibly comes close was the KZ2 bundle price.

Other than that, retailer drops and retailer created bundles do not count. If so, then 360 had way more than jsut 2 price drops last year in Europe alone, which just adds further to my "not disappointing" argument.

Yes we do.

We are discussing European sales.

well even if the ps3 is selling for a cheaper price that doesn't as a price cut , a price cut works when there is an ad campaign accompanies it.

If the PS3 20gb and 60gb were available equally, one would expect:

PS3 20gb sales to be much higher than 60gb sales because the 20gb model is far closer to the launch off price of $400 at which PS3 sales took off.

Instead, 60GB sales are far higher by a ratio I believe of 4-1 IIRC. So people who were struggling to purchase the PS3 or justify its puchase decided to pay $100 extra for no good reason?

Wireless isn't that important and hardcore initial buyers would know they could change the HDD out anyway.

Lastly, a 20% price cut isn't significant enough to justify the PS3 increase in sales in 2007, however a $200 or 33% cut does.

Euphoria, I can only work with the numbers that we actually have. Stating, "PS3 sales would have dropped much lower last week if it hadn't been for Killzone" may or may not be true, but it can't be quanitified in any way. All we can really say for certain is that PS3 hardware sales were up about 30k last week (America + Others), and appear to be back to the normal weekly average this week. Take that as you will.

Maybe we look at it differently but for me it doesn't matter if "X" decided it was justified or if "X" person decided to pay $100 for no reason or if one was more readily available than the other.

All I see is that PS3 did in fact start off as a 2 SKU show and it still remains as a 2 SKU show. The prices between the 2 SKUs in comparison to their launch date counterparts is still only $100.

Doesn't matter about the "ifs", I just go on what facts are present in from of me.

If it was indeed a $200 drop then please show me the way to my up and coming $299 PS3.

@Sulla

I guess me and you will take it differently, I still stand by my thought however.

The way I see it, no matter which option you wish to take it still looks good for the PS3. Especially for a console that moved systems with a game that so many here felt wouldn't move any systems at all.

Also just to add, PS3 before KZ2 week was 84k consoles behind the 360 WW. The following week it was ahead by a couple thousand give or take. Yakuza we know sold around 20k consoles, everyone else in every other territory dropped in sales, including handhelds. So unless I go by what I think I have no choice but to assume that PS3 would have been the only one to be unaffected.

Something has got to give in your argument.

Regardless, nice sales all around.

Now I just need some software numbers.

The way you calculate it is completely illogical. You can consider the sales to your product just by using the sales relative to your competition. It just doesn't make sense. Sony didn't earn money for 80k PS3 but for 30k PS3. Also, as Trios_zen stated, it's normal to be civil, when it's you and CGI-Quality posting 80% of the posts of the thread.

OT: Good sales all around.

Yikes ! i thought PS3 would lead over 360 again . but thats why we have blackstar!