Lol. You only have to go back a few months and everyone was 100% sure cod:waw would be a magnificent flop that probably won't do a 100,000.

Out of the almost 50 million wiis out there quite a few are part of multi-console homes.
This is an exclusive. A lot of HD owners that also own a wii will get this.

Although there are different genres, what Madworld does in sales figures can be used in a way to predict how well conduit does, meaning both are unknown entities from the same publisher.

Yes. It's surprising that some people state facts.  What FPS on the Wii has been a huge seller?  There hasn't been one.  The biggest has been Red Steel and that barely sold 1 million copies.

Funny. 

I don't think it's fair to say FPS don't do well on the Wii. There have barely been any FPS games at all, especially original efforts.

The best we had before CoD was MoH2, a PSP port, with great controls. It did alright in so far as sales go. Nothing "amazing", but you can't point at it and say it was a flop.

And at this point, CoD is about to cross the million seller list, so that alone blows the whole "fps games don't sell on Wii" to meaty, moist chunks. (And we already mentioned Red Steel.)

To me, this is like Field of Dreams. If you build it, they will come.

Well, let's start by getting a GOOD first person shooter on the system and then consider the sales.   Oh look, we get a pretty decent one with CoD:WaW and it blows the doors off all sales expectations from the publisher, retail and analysts.

Now we're getting a game with far more hype, a bigger marketing budget, better mulitplayer and possibly a better single player experience as well.  How in the world can you expect it to sell significantly less than CoD:WaW?

What did analysts expect w@w to sell on Wii? I'm just curious. And also I'm with Viper, he said exactly what I was going to point out. (Shanobi as well)

Brand name. Killzone 2 likely won't beat Cod: World at War - despite all of the advatanges you listed. That's the way she goes.

Aside from the fact that the PS3 is a different animal and has several good FPS's from which to draw a target audience (as well as genre compeittion), KZ2 won't outsell CoD:WaW on PS3 because Sony has given the game the worst marketing ever for a big budget game.   They spent $50-60 million on development but give it the marketing budget of a budget title.

EDIT: Another factor - CoD:WaW on Wii was not given much retailer support at all.  Retail support for The Conduit is already much larger.  Sega is doing a much better job getting them onboard than Activision did for the Wii iteration of CoD:WaW.

I am not disagreeing with any of the statements that are saying that the Wii's mediocre sales for FPS are partially to blame because the games themselves have been mediocre.

What I'm saying is that CoD is a huge franchise and the game wasn't bad. The Conduit, on the other hand, is an unknown commodity. Average Joe that doesn't follow gaming like people on this site is more likely to pick up CoD instead of the Conduit if they are side by side on a shelf.

Also, no one has played the Conduit and doesn't know if it's any good or not. It was developed by those guys that did the 50 Cent game. Right? Sorry if this makes me a bit skeptical. I remember another game, named Red Steel, getting similar hype.

Honestly I hope that the Conduit is awesome, and sells 15 million copies, but I don't see that happening.

So all of a sudden World at War is just "decent," while a game none of us have played yet will be good? For those of you quoting Call of Duty 3 on the Wii, the Call of Duty series wasn't nearly as big at that point. Comparably, the game only sold somewhere in the 2-3 million range (can't be bothered to check it right now) on the 360. Now that Call of Duty is an incredibly mainstream series, pushing the Activision juggernaut along with Guitar Hero, World at War's success on the Wii shouldn't be all that surprising. Not many people expected it, sure, but now that it's here no one should be marveling at the success of the game.

As anyone would be quick to point out, The Conduit's hype so far can only be determined by looking at internet hype, which still isn't that enormous anyways. I could list a bunch of games with little internet hype outselling games praising across every inch of our beloved interwebs, but I'm much too lazy at the moment. I don't really know, so I'm not making any predictions. I'm just saying that it's not as basic as people are trying to make it out to be.

Ahh, it doesn't matter to me much anyways. One company has been supporting the Wii since launch and brought it several titles, quality or not. Another's most notable releases on the Wii include such hits as Ben 10: Protector of Earth and Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law. So I don't have all of High Voltage's pretentious quotes saved, and I generally try to avoid reading them too much.

 It might be exclusive but somehow I doubt that PSWii or Wii360 owners will purchase it so in the end it will catter mostly to Wii owners only the same way CoD:WaW Wii did.