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Millennium on 09 March 2009

Honestly, I think it was because of marketing. Sonic on PS3 might have generated a little buzz, as would Sonic on 360. However, nothing -and I mean nothing- would be bigger news to anyone who's been gaming since the SNES/Genesis days than Mario and Sonic in the same game. And if that game's sales are any indication, it worked brilliantly.



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Snake612 on 09 March 2009

I think because Sonic pertains to the a lot of young children. Besides, Sega isn't planning to make a console, so they wouldn't have any other reason to give all the Sonic games to the Wii. When it came to which consoles had a huge casual fanbase, Sega was second to Nintendo back in the day. In other words, its only right if Sega and Nintendo make some kind of partnership.



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S.T.A.G.E. on 09 March 2009
Lolcislaw said:

I hope Wii will get a Virtua Fighter game from SEGA, Wii lacks a big deep fighting franchise (apart from Brawl )and i reckon this title could achieve better sales on the wii then on the HD twins that have plenty of those games like SF, tekken or SC.


Shenmue would also be cool.

 

And why? simply because this platform makes them money, and Wii owners do like sega games.

 

Graphics capacity and gameplay are one of the reasons the Wii is not appropriate for hardcore fighters.



jammy2211 on 09 March 2009
Gamerace said:
jammy2211 said:
I don't think SEGA has done bad on the HD platforms - Iron Man / Viking of Asregard / Beijing 2008 / Condemned 2 all hit over a million on PS360, Unleashed will join them soon.

They support Nintendo because their type of games suit the console more. Better suited demographic, better suited style of game etc. I couldn't see them turning House of the Dead or Jet Set Radio into a HD epic :/.

They've got plenty of HD stuff in the works still, just it doesn't seem to get much hype. I guess SEGA just arn't capable enough to make stand-out games compared to the likes of Activsion / EA / Capcom.

 

Don't forget, 1-2m is about the break even point for a typical HD game that costs $20-40m (according to Edge Magazine) so none of those games were really profittable.   In comparison Sonic and the Secret Rings sold 2m with a development cost of about 1/3 or less than Unleashed.  So it was easily profitable after the first 500k

 Games like Iron Man and Beijing 2008 won't have costed anywhere near $20 million, albeit may not have great profits due to the license fees. I doubt Condemned or Viking cost that much either, if they did it's SEGA's bad for blowing their money away like that.

 I was just saying SEGA haven't had that rough of a time of it on PS360 (except that Golden Axe Game), they've obviously had more success on the Wii thus far but they're still bringing Alpha Protocol, Aliens:Colinial Marines, Alien vs Predator, Stormrise, Yakuza 3 etc to the HD platforms :/.

 Which lends nicely to my point that SEGA just ain't got the talent for HD developement, as no one seems to have a clue what those games are :P.

 



Millennium on 09 March 2009
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Lolcislaw said:

I hope Wii will get a Virtua Fighter game from SEGA, Wii lacks a big deep fighting franchise (apart from Brawl )and i reckon this title could achieve better sales on the wii then on the HD twins that have plenty of those games like SF, tekken or SC.


Shenmue would also be cool.

 

And why? simply because this platform makes them money, and Wii owners do like sega games.

 

Graphics capacity and gameplay are one of the reasons the Wii is not appropriate for hardcore fighters.

FIghters could be so much better on the Wii, if only anyone had the guts to develop a proper motion interface and make people use it.

 



Complexity is not depth. Machismo is not maturity. Obsession is not dedication. Tedium is not challenge. Support gaming: support the Wii.

Be the ultimate ninja! Play Billy Vs. SNAKEMAN today! Poisson Village welcomes new players.

What do I hate about modern gaming? I hate tedium replacing challenge, complexity replacing depth, and domination replacing entertainment. I hate the outsourcing of mechanics to physics textbooks, art direction to photocopiers, and story to cheap Hollywood screenwriters. I hate the confusion of obsession with dedication, style with substance, new with gimmicky, old with obsolete, new with evolutionary, and old with time-tested.
There is much to hate about modern gaming. That is why I support the Wii.

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Lolcislaw on 09 March 2009
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Lolcislaw said:

I hope Wii will get a Virtua Fighter game from SEGA, Wii lacks a big deep fighting franchise (apart from Brawl )and i reckon this title could achieve better sales on the wii then on the HD twins that have plenty of those games like SF, tekken or SC.


Shenmue would also be cool.

 

And why? simply because this platform makes them money, and Wii owners do like sega games.

 

Graphics capacity and gameplay are one of the reasons the Wii is not appropriate for hardcore fighters.

And PS2 or DC were good enough??

 

Of Course they could develop a game that is graphically good looking (for the Wii standards ) and played well on NIntendo system, it wouldnt just look as good as PS3, i do not really see the problem.

Plus it could use few control systems, with GC, Classic Controller or Motion based one, just look how well Dragon Ball Tenkaichi Budokai 3Play on the Wii.

So Wii is as appropriate for hardcore fighters as PS360, if you think about it.

 



peachbuggy on 09 March 2009

I think they should bring out a Sega rally game for the Wii. That would be awesome.



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arsenal009 on 09 March 2009

Forget rally, I need to play a new Sega GT, ahhhhhhhhhhhh



amp316 on 09 March 2009

Besides for the entire wanting to make money thing, I have no idea why Sega would want to support Nintendo. They really should be concentrating their efforts on making big budget flops for the HD systems.



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Ari_Gold on 09 March 2009

Wii Releases

Sonic and The Secret Rings
Sonic Unleashed
Sonic and the Black Night
Mario & Sonic At the Olympic Winter Games
Mairo & Sonic At the Olympic Games
Sonic Riders: Zero Gravity
Sega Bass Fishing
Sega Superstar Tennis
House of the Dead 2&3 Return
House of the Dead Overkill
Nights: Journey of Dreams
Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz
Alien Syndrome
Incredible Hulk
Virtual Tennis 2009
Madworld
Samba de Amigo
Ghost Squad
The Conduit
Iron Man
The Golden Compass
Let's Tap
Bleach: Shattered Blade
Nancy Drew: The White Wolf of Icicle Creek
Beijing Olympics 2008


360/PS3 Releases

Sega Rally Evo
Sonic Superstar Tennis
Golden Axe: Beast Rider
Condemned Criminal Origins
Condemned 2: Bloodshot
Armored Core 4
Sonic The Hedgehog
Sonic Unleashed
Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection
Stormrise
Universe at War: Earth Assault
Full Auto
Viking: Battle for Asgard
The Club
Virtua Fighter 5
Virtua Tennis 3
Virtua Tennis 2009
Iron Man
Incredible Hulk
The Golden Compass
ChromeHounds
Phantasy Star Universe
Beijing Olympics 2008
Valkyria Chronicles
Full Auto 2: Battlelines
Football Manager 2006
Football Manager 2007
Football Manager 2008
Football Manager 2009
Yakusa 3
Ryu ga Gotoku Kenzan
Bayonetta


Based on actual fact on games released by Sega this gen. Sega has released more games for HD consoles. Other than releasing shitty sonic games on all platforms, the only decent exclusive games on Wii by Sega are Madworld, House of the Dead:OK, and maybe the Conduit. By contrast on HD consoles, you have the core Sega franchises: Virtua Fighter, Yakusa, Valkyria Chronicles, Bayonetta. My point, Sega aren't doing that great on the Wii, stop putting them on a pedestal. I would argue they support HD consoles with more hardcore games than the wii, but people don't look at the facts.