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BTFeather55 said:
go check some of my earlier posts if you want to. i've written at length here about some things that could shift the way the consoles are. And the 360 does have a problem in that over the last year several of its titles that were supposed to be so promising have turned out to have received lukewarm critical receptions that have stifled their sales. All of the jrpgs, Ninja Gaiden II, Halo Wars though it is selling, Too Human, Fable 2's legs. 360 exclusives have failed to meet expectations far more often than PS3 ones as of late.

 

 what are you talking about?  Fable 2 sold 2.61 million copies so far, which is actually even better than the first fable and is a very good amount for any game.  Gears of war 2 has sold 4.65 mill, left 4 dead has sold 1.8 mill, If you look at MGS4 which has been out twice as long and got way better reviews, it has only sold a little over a million more copies. That point aside, what specific ps3 exclusives are doing better?  Resistance 2 which came out the same time as fable has only moved 1.46 mill, LBP has sold 2.04 mill.  Yes, the 360 has had flops like too human and some of the jrpg's, but so has sony with the likes of motorstorm pacific rift and haze.  However, when you compare the actually AAA exclusives, the 360 exclusives tend to sell about the same if not better.



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Stan85 said:
badgenome said:
richardhutnik said:
aderoche said:

The mass market has been waiting for a ps3 price cut. Once they realize that Sony cannot afford one, they will just buy a ps3 anyway and the xbox will be finnished!

What percentage of this "mass market" when they go window shopping, swing by the videogame section to see what the price of the PS3 is, and see if the price drops?

In an economy where unemployment went over 8% in the USA, where retirement funds are shrinking, and people are concerned that they may get fired at any minute, do you have a waiting pattern for a console to drop in price? What percentage of people have the price of the PS3 in their mind?

And what would they have it in their mind for? Is it to play BluRay movies? If so, there are cheaper options than the PS3 for that. Is it to play games? The Wii and 360 are cheaper options. And if price was the deciding factor, the 360 would be outselling the Wii at this point.

 

 

I'm sorry, but this is simply nonsense. How many times must Sony tell you that the Xbox 360 is the most expensive console on the market? It is, in part, Microsoft's pigheaded refusal to even try to compete with Sony on price point that has doomed the 360.

How many times must Sony tell you that you must get a second job to buy a ps3? What bad economy? What 9-5 first job? "Everyone will know discipline".

The ps3 is an entertainment hub,that can play/stream movies from Netflix,play/download games and connect to the superior Live network...oh,wait... 

 

 

You do know that if you put linux on it, you can do pretty much anything. One could say you could play xbox/gamecube/N64/SNES/genesis/dreamcast/saturn/nes/ atari games on it too. Since you can pretty much find linux emulators. Also you can surf the web in many flavors. Use the netflix that works with a computer(IE instantly watch movies like the xbox) The whole "live is better!!!1!one!!" is false. Besides the PSN is better for free.



Diablerie said:

Sony has sold more PS3's in the same amount of time that the 360 has been out on the shelves.  I'm not going to say that the 360 is doomed because it isn't.  I just think alot of people forget about that 1 year difference.

 

 



JGarret said:
When both HD systems are sharing the vast majority of 3rd party titles, imho that 2nd or 3rd place spot becomes irrelevant...

 

Exactly.

 

And it is always the same BS that comes out of the fanboys mouth (fingers..):

- One year in advance for MS (??)

- Media advantage for SOny (??)

- Quality vs price (?? aha)

- ... write another fanboy fantasy here

 

Blahblah blah... Mine is bigger than yours....

 



 

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Sardauk said:
JGarret said:
When both HD systems are sharing the vast majority of 3rd party titles, imho that 2nd or 3rd place spot becomes irrelevant...

 

Exactly.

 

And it is always the same BS that comes out of the fanboys mouth (fingers..):

- One year in advance for MS (??)

- Media advantage for SOny (??)

- Quality vs price (?? aha)

- ... write another fanboy fantasy here

 

Blahblah blah... Mine is bigger than yours....

 

NOPE!

 



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Sardauk said:
JGarret said:
When both HD systems are sharing the vast majority of 3rd party titles, imho that 2nd or 3rd place spot becomes irrelevant...

 

Exactly.

 

And it is always the same BS that comes out of the fanboys mouth (fingers..):

- One year in advance for MS (??)

- Media advantage for SOny (??)

- Quality vs price (?? aha)

- ... write another fanboy fantasy here

 

Blahblah blah... Mine is bigger than yours....

 

I don't see how the year headstart is a fanboy fantasy. People are always touting the 360 as second place this gen yet the 360 was at 17m this time last year. Does that mean a year after 360 ends production Ps3 gets 1 more year for the gen and can pass 360 sales? Does that mean that 360 isn't dominating Sony as bad as people say since Ps3 is at 20m near the same time 360 was at 17m? It's a lot of what ifs but they're all plausible.

 



Squilliam said:
Sardauk said:
JGarret said:
When both HD systems are sharing the vast majority of 3rd party titles, imho that 2nd or 3rd place spot becomes irrelevant...

 

Exactly.

 

And it is always the same BS that comes out of the fanboys mouth (fingers..):

- One year in advance for MS (??)

- Media advantage for SOny (??)

- Quality vs price (?? aha)

- ... write another fanboy fantasy here

 

Blahblah blah... Mine is bigger than yours....

 

NOPE!

 

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Microsoft drops the price to 200 USD Sony complains saying they are valued more for each dollar. Sony and Microsoft understand the their market are similar an that price and content is the determinating factor. They understand tge scope of their markets and it saturation point per price level. That's competition.



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SickleSigh said:
Diablerie said:

Sony has sold more PS3's in the same amount of time that the 360 has been out on the shelves.  I'm not going to say that the 360 is doomed because it isn't.  I just think alot of people forget about that 1 year difference.

 

 

 

You forget about the one year head start for the PS2?