Oh no sony defense force is crumbling, who will be next, anyway, i'm not really suprised why he was banned.

So I did. Welcome to VGChartz!

As I said, we are at the mercy of the mods mood swings.

Enjoy your stay in the internet.

in this very thread too! mwhaha. i bliame my ps3 though. by the time the page loads, i hit quote then type out a response then hit send then it loads again there is always more comments to respond to. it makes it hard to browse so im basically stuck in this thread

No idea why I was quoted unless I missed something here. *scratches head*

I was just letting him know that SO4 did not outsell the last game in the series, which was SO3.

You confuse me.

All Star Oceans take place in the same general timeline of events - like Phantasy Star (pre-PSO) did. Star Ocean has never had a spinoff, only remakes.

And for the record on Star Ocean sales:

Star Ocean (SNES):

• 76,000 - First Week
• 176,000 - LTD
  

Star Ocean 2 (PS1):

• 374,000 - First Week
• 700,000 - LTD

Star Ocean 3 (PS2):

• 386,000 - First Week
• 533,000 - LTD

Star Ocean: First Departure (PSP Remake of SO1)

• 115,000 - First Week
• 205,000 - LTD

Star Ocean: Second Story (PSP Remake of SO2)

• 90,000 - First Week
• 143,000 - LTD

There are a few ways to look at it. On one hand, it's definately going to underpreform vs. SO3. However, on the other end, the PSP remakes did abysmal, and SO4 on 360 already outsold both PSP remakes' first week numbers in 1 day, and is assured to pass the SO2 remake's LTD numbers in 1 week. So looking at the most recent titles, SO4 did very well on the 360, regardless. It's just when you compare it to SO3, it doesn't look as stellar.

More than likely, I think we'll see a PS3/X360 Director's Cut, since the DC of SO3 did very well. But that's IMO.

And Max, since you have no idea about Star Ocean, I'll give you a hint: The PSP versions are as much Star Ocean as the FFIII and IV remakes on DS are. Take that as you want, but that's the same level they are on. Phantasy Star Portable has been mentioned as well, which is an apt comparason too (and Phantasy Star Portable sold ~700,000 on the PSP).

Facts are not welcome here, lol.

That extra part about shams could have been left out.

For downplaying the power of handhelds to sell games over consoles. Remakes can sell good while being on a handheld. ¬_¬

So Star Ocean PSP did 'abysmal', and yet it outsold the original game:

Star Ocean (SNES):

* 76,000 - First Week
* 176,000 - LTD

Star Ocean: First Departure (PSP Remake of SO1)

* 115,000 - First Week
* 205,000 - LTD

I didn't start this ridiculous argument (X360 vs. PSP), but anyone who thinks mainline SO game on PSP wouldn't destroy SO4 sales is delusional.

You're off on SO1 by a bit, going by VGChartz anyways.

Your first comment makes me wonder then why in the hell they would re-release the first two on Sony platforms and then only release the follow up title on a platform that has none of the other games and none of the fanbase. Shouldn't they have re-release the first two on XBLA instead?

Makes very little sense to me.