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MaxwellGT2000 said:
windbane said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
windbane said:
at least he amused himself, even if he missed my real point.

 

That someone that 1) hasn't played an unreleased game is saying the slowdown doesn't effect gameplay and 2) just shown he doesn't know much about game graphics, yet has been whining about Wii graphics for over a year but praising PS3 graphics on internet forums... yeah...

So the point I've been getting from the overall posts you've made.

Graphics matter when it comes to Wii, if it's something like Metroid Prime 3, and can't tell the difference between it and the past games, and will refute all the given facts, yet if Killzone 2 has framerate that dips into the 20s and could possibly effect gameplay, all of a sudden technical stuff doesn't matter...

Just me but when you go around telling people things it just doesn't seem from a reliable source, I say wait till the game comes out and actually play it to make judgement, because the beta and the demo's are not the full game.

1. I played the game for several hundred hours.

2. The triangle thing was a joke. I'm sorry you didn't understand that.

3. Graphics matter when it comes to Wii but no one freaking cares to study the technical aspects of their games because they aren't held up to be technically impressive.

4. There are nearly 60 reviews counted on metacritic and none of them mention frame rate problems being an issue in the game, which is why I don't take this thread seriously. The fact that people need to attack this game is retarded to me. It's a great game.

 

So you were trolling?

This entire thread is trolling, including you.  I merely included a joke with my points.  You must be hurt that you didn't understand I was kidding.

You also (again) ignored my points.

In addition to the hundreds of beta hours (where performance actually matters), the demo has no problems.  The reviews say there are no problems.  The only people saying there are problems are you guys that haven't played the game.

 



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NJ5 said:
darendt said:
NJ5 said:
So not only is it not 60 fps, but it's not even a stable 30 fps? If this is what passes for a technically good game these days, fine...

It's quite annoying that most of the 360 games I played have noticeable framerate dips whereas the Wii is much better in this regard.

 

LOL, really, you are comparinng the Wii to the 360 and PS3 in terms of framerate? Put any Wii game on either 360 or PS3 and they wouldnt even break a sweat at 60FPS hell 120FPS

If it's fine to say PS360 games have better graphics, why is it not fine to say Wii games have better framerates?

There's this thing called reality in which your post is meaningless.

 

My point was that there is no excuss to not have solid framerates on the Wii due its low speced games. The worst looking PS3/360 games look leaps and bounds better than any Wii game. Not saying they are all better games mind you, just look better.

 



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windbane said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
windbane said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
windbane said:
at least he amused himself, even if he missed my real point.

 

That someone that 1) hasn't played an unreleased game is saying the slowdown doesn't effect gameplay and 2) just shown he doesn't know much about game graphics, yet has been whining about Wii graphics for over a year but praising PS3 graphics on internet forums... yeah...

So the point I've been getting from the overall posts you've made.

Graphics matter when it comes to Wii, if it's something like Metroid Prime 3, and can't tell the difference between it and the past games, and will refute all the given facts, yet if Killzone 2 has framerate that dips into the 20s and could possibly effect gameplay, all of a sudden technical stuff doesn't matter...

Just me but when you go around telling people things it just doesn't seem from a reliable source, I say wait till the game comes out and actually play it to make judgement, because the beta and the demo's are not the full game.

1. I played the game for several hundred hours.

2. The triangle thing was a joke. I'm sorry you didn't understand that.

3. Graphics matter when it comes to Wii but no one freaking cares to study the technical aspects of their games because they aren't held up to be technically impressive.

4. There are nearly 60 reviews counted on metacritic and none of them mention frame rate problems being an issue in the game, which is why I don't take this thread seriously. The fact that people need to attack this game is retarded to me. It's a great game.

 

So you were trolling?

This entire thread is trolling, including you.  I merely included a joke with my points.  You must be hurt that you didn't understand I was kidding.

You also (again) ignored my points.

In addition to the hundreds of beta hours (where performance actually matters), the demo has no problems.  The reviews say there are no problems.  The only people saying there are problems are you guys that haven't played the game.

 

 

Entire thread.... trolling... you just said that... wow... a thread about a study on the framerate is not trolling no matter how you look at it, I'm sorry if you're butthurt by a few facts and studies and a discussion.

Beta doesn't mean anything if the final game doesn't have stability. 

 



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I was just playing Super Mario Galaxy, and the framerate dropped to 30 during some starry explosions. I feel pretty jarred by the whole thing. I think I'm gonna be sick.

Go on. Discuss this gaming travesty. I will be heading to the restroom until I feel better.



 

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darendt said:
NJ5 said:
darendt said:
NJ5 said:
So not only is it not 60 fps, but it's not even a stable 30 fps? If this is what passes for a technically good game these days, fine...

It's quite annoying that most of the 360 games I played have noticeable framerate dips whereas the Wii is much better in this regard.

 

LOL, really, you are comparinng the Wii to the 360 and PS3 in terms of framerate? Put any Wii game on either 360 or PS3 and they wouldnt even break a sweat at 60FPS hell 120FPS

If it's fine to say PS360 games have better graphics, why is it not fine to say Wii games have better framerates?

There's this thing called reality in which your post is meaningless.

 

My point was that there is no excuss to not have solid framerates on the Wii due its low speced games. The worst looking PS3/360 games look leaps and bounds better than any Wii game. Not saying they are all better games mind you, just look better.

 

 

 

Well the Xbox 360 and PS3 games hardly hardly have an excuse considering the sheer performance advantages the consoles have over the Wii, and yet the Wii games seem to net more stable frame-rates.



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MaxwellGT2000 said:
windbane said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
windbane said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
windbane said:
at least he amused himself, even if he missed my real point.

 

That someone that 1) hasn't played an unreleased game is saying the slowdown doesn't effect gameplay and 2) just shown he doesn't know much about game graphics, yet has been whining about Wii graphics for over a year but praising PS3 graphics on internet forums... yeah...

So the point I've been getting from the overall posts you've made.

Graphics matter when it comes to Wii, if it's something like Metroid Prime 3, and can't tell the difference between it and the past games, and will refute all the given facts, yet if Killzone 2 has framerate that dips into the 20s and could possibly effect gameplay, all of a sudden technical stuff doesn't matter...

Just me but when you go around telling people things it just doesn't seem from a reliable source, I say wait till the game comes out and actually play it to make judgement, because the beta and the demo's are not the full game.

1. I played the game for several hundred hours.

2. The triangle thing was a joke. I'm sorry you didn't understand that.

3. Graphics matter when it comes to Wii but no one freaking cares to study the technical aspects of their games because they aren't held up to be technically impressive.

4. There are nearly 60 reviews counted on metacritic and none of them mention frame rate problems being an issue in the game, which is why I don't take this thread seriously. The fact that people need to attack this game is retarded to me. It's a great game.

 

So you were trolling?

This entire thread is trolling, including you. I merely included a joke with my points. You must be hurt that you didn't understand I was kidding.

You also (again) ignored my points.

In addition to the hundreds of beta hours (where performance actually matters), the demo has no problems. The reviews say there are no problems. The only people saying there are problems are you guys that haven't played the game.

 

 

Entire thread.... trolling... you just said that... wow... a thread about a study on the framerate is not trolling no matter how you look at it, I'm sorry if you're butthurt by a few facts and studies and a discussion.

Beta doesn't mean anything if the final game doesn't have stability.

 

In addition to the hundreds of beta hours (where performance actually matters), the demo has no problems. The reviews say there are no problems. The only people saying there are problems are you guys that haven't played the game.

 

 



Procrastinato said:
I was just playing Super Mario Galaxy, and the framerate dropped to 30 during some starry explosions. I feel pretty jarred by the whole thing. I think I'm gonna be sick.

Go on. Discuss this gaming travesty. I will be heading to the restroom until I feel better.

 

LOL!  You noticed that too?  I figured I was the only that saw the framerate dip when a lot of explosions go off.  The only thing is framerate dips for a FPS is a much more serious problem as it can lead to death, while the dip for SMG is typically when you're doing that bomb the trash minigame or while you're flying through the air so it's not getting in the way of gameplay.



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MaxwellGT2000 said:
Procrastinato said:
I was just playing Super Mario Galaxy, and the framerate dropped to 30 during some starry explosions. I feel pretty jarred by the whole thing. I think I'm gonna be sick.

Go on. Discuss this gaming travesty. I will be heading to the restroom until I feel better.

 

LOL! You noticed that too? I figured I was the only that saw the framerate dip when a lot of explosions go off. The only thing is framerate dips for a FPS is a much more serious problem as it can lead to death, while the dip for SMG is typically when you're doing that bomb the trash minigame or while you're flying through the air so it's not getting in the way of gameplay.

Wow, so you admit that Wii games have framerate problems and yet make an excuse that it won't cause any gameplay problems?  I think we're getting somewhere!

Tell me why reviews don't point out these framerate problems.  Tell me why I never died in multiplayer due to frame rate problems.  Is it possible that it's a non-issue, as I said originally?

 



windbane said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
windbane said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
windbane said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
windbane said:
at least he amused himself, even if he missed my real point.

 

That someone that 1) hasn't played an unreleased game is saying the slowdown doesn't effect gameplay and 2) just shown he doesn't know much about game graphics, yet has been whining about Wii graphics for over a year but praising PS3 graphics on internet forums... yeah...

So the point I've been getting from the overall posts you've made.

Graphics matter when it comes to Wii, if it's something like Metroid Prime 3, and can't tell the difference between it and the past games, and will refute all the given facts, yet if Killzone 2 has framerate that dips into the 20s and could possibly effect gameplay, all of a sudden technical stuff doesn't matter...

Just me but when you go around telling people things it just doesn't seem from a reliable source, I say wait till the game comes out and actually play it to make judgement, because the beta and the demo's are not the full game.

1. I played the game for several hundred hours.

2. The triangle thing was a joke. I'm sorry you didn't understand that.

3. Graphics matter when it comes to Wii but no one freaking cares to study the technical aspects of their games because they aren't held up to be technically impressive.

4. There are nearly 60 reviews counted on metacritic and none of them mention frame rate problems being an issue in the game, which is why I don't take this thread seriously. The fact that people need to attack this game is retarded to me. It's a great game.

 

So you were trolling?

This entire thread is trolling, including you. I merely included a joke with my points. You must be hurt that you didn't understand I was kidding.

You also (again) ignored my points.

In addition to the hundreds of beta hours (where performance actually matters), the demo has no problems. The reviews say there are no problems. The only people saying there are problems are you guys that haven't played the game.

 

 

Entire thread.... trolling... you just said that... wow... a thread about a study on the framerate is not trolling no matter how you look at it, I'm sorry if you're butthurt by a few facts and studies and a discussion.

Beta doesn't mean anything if the final game doesn't have stability.

 

In addition to the hundreds of beta hours (where performance actually matters), the demo has no problems. The reviews say there are no problems. The only people saying there are problems are you guys that haven't played the game.

 

 

 

People like Squilliam have played the beta, I've played the demo, we know how it plays.  And like it or not the demo did have some slowdown when a lot of gernades and explosions were going off, nothing game breaking, but could end up being worse in some parts, as developers usually want to demo/beta the best looking and most stable parts of the game.

If I wanted to get into issues that everyone knows about and GG even confirmed was the input lag, there's even a thread on the official sony forums by them that said they are aware of the issue but the final game doesn't have it, while people that have gotten the game early by some shops breaking streetdate, they say the issue is still there in the final game.



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