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dtewi said:
Looks like your bet is looking pretty obvious carlos.

PSM gave heavenly sword a 10/10, and some other magazines as well. Just because it got 1 low review doesnt mean anything. The same reviwer gave lost planet a 7.1 and it ended up getting an 8.5. I still expect heavenlysword to get a very well review and I still expect it to outsell metroid 3(in frist weeks).

Why will it get a well review? Just for the fact that the gametrailers guys themselves, in the preview said they couldnt get enough of the game.



 

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Its obvious that most of the development effort has gone into graphical technology and visuals. They don't disappoint. However - and similar to LAIR as well - a lot less effort has gone into the game play/design itself.

This is exactly what Nintendo were talking about, when talking about the PS3 compared to the Wii. Sony don't seem that concerned about pushing the gameplay envelope - the PS1/PS2 sold really well based on "last-gen" gameplay, and Sony seems (initially at least) to be keen to keep the old style of game - and incorporate new graphical tech.

(Ninty on the other hand is the exact opposite - gameplay is most important - along with input - and visuals much less important). 

HS is a 7.0-8.0 game. Get over it. Whereas BioShock will end up with a gamerankings score of around 9.5, HS will end up around 7.5-8.0.

 



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I still think that a great game on a better selling console will sell better than an above average game on an underpeforming console.



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leo-j said:
dtewi said:
Looks like your bet is looking pretty obvious carlos.

PSM gave heavenly sword a 10/10, and some other magazines as well. Just because it got 1 low review doesnt mean anything. The same reviwer gave lost planet a 7.1 and it ended up getting an 8.5. I still expect heavenlysword to get a very well review and I still expect it to outsell metroid 3(in frist weeks).

Not a hope in hell... sorry leo-j.

Carlos - you can start preparing that avatar now...

leo-j - this is the first real review for HS. I'll wait until it gets a few more before damning the title, but the complaints seem pretty valid and hard to ignore.

 



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If metroid sells a million in the first month heavenly sword is screwed because to get over a million it would have to have a 25% attach ratio, which i severly doubt.



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dtewi said:
If metroid sells a million in the first month heavenly sword is screwed because to get over a million it would have to have a 25% attach ratio, which i severly doubt.

Very true, only a select few games reach that attachment rate (mario games, and halo games) so i dont think theres really a chance in hell, but hey maybe every ps3 owner will buy it?

Also to the person who said galaxy will win.. yes it will if wii has a alot more people and the attachment rate is as high as some of the old ones yes it can, but look back at halos attachment rate and see how many are likely to sell



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Wait wait wait let me see if I have this right Leo-J. Rather than believe the person who has completed the game and is a neutral judge. You are choosing to believe the developer. Someone who has a very high personal stake in the game? And the fact that developers are notorious for overstating how long their games are doesn't affect you either? Whenever developers announce a length for their game the first thing people on forums do is knock a few hours off. Because they know how these things work.

They tell you how long it would take to complete the game, if you did every single thing, and got lost for a bit, then stuck for a bit etc, and decided to spend a few minutes looking around every single area you came to just in case you missed something. They are not normal playthroughs, they are extended playthroughs.

The developers and back of the box of Tales of Symphonia tells me it's an 80hour + game but I know that's not true. 55hours and I had done the main story and all side quests.



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I haden't thought about that. I had always been given the impression lair and HS were is development long enough to be truly complete. But i guess Lair was delayed, so maybe they are rushing them.

In any case, this supports what i was saying in another thread started by Kber. This game looks really beautiful, but there are many indications that the gameplay will be lacking. I certainly dont think it will be poor, but i honestly cant see it being called anything more than average to solid. I still think it will sell like crazy (comparitively), because it seems to be ps3's flagship this yr (except perhaps R & C), and ps3 owners have little in the way of big titles until march 2008



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carlos710 said:
leo-j said:
naznatips said:
Am I the only one who thinks these games (Lair and Heavenly Sword) are getting these bad reviews because Sony is rushing them out so that they don't have an abysmal software lineup this year? 6 or 7 hours of gameplay is ridiculous. There isn't even a Gamecube game that short and they are on 1.5 GB minidiscs. There is no way that this game went through a full development cycle if a reviewer can beat it in 6 hours. I think the same thing happened with Lair. A lot of the issues sound like problems that happen when a game is rushed to the market. Is Sony killing its own games in order to make it look like they have a better 07 lineup?

WTF? 6-7 hours? Its more like 10-15 hours.

edit: Heavenly sword has been worked on for 2 years on the ps3, they delayed it to make it better. Funny how ign uk is the only reviewer than gave it anything lower than a 9.5, and gametrailers is loving the game from there preview. Are you sure they didnt rate the demo :P


 Another magazine gave Heavenly sword an 8.0, i dont remember the name... but i can look the link for you if you don't trust my word :)

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go on internet try to find a "most anticipiated" list for 2007 and I m sure 2*Mario+MP3+REUC will be killed by CoD4/PES2008/PGR4/GT5pro/Halo3/Haze/Unchartred/Heavenlysword"

None of those games (especially the ones coming out this year) will outsell mario galaxy.  Halo 3 has a shot, however in the long run Mario galaxy should win.


I take you up on the Halo 3 versus SMG bet.



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dtewi said:
The developer is Sony leo-j, this may shock you, but I think sony lies sometimes. Anyway how do you know the 3 that rated it above 9.5 only rated the demo. This game may be good in short burst, but not playing it for a while. The other sites may have only rated the demos which was good because it was a short burst of greatness, but the game as a whole is dissapointing. IGN gets advance copies and they play the game thorougly, while the other sites most likely did not. Like I said, this game is a good time for 10 minutes, but gets boring fast.

Actually this is a 2nd party game made by Ninja Theory published by Sony.

So no. The developer is NOT Sony. And the developers have said that the game was over 10 hours.



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