PSM gave heavenly sword a 10/10, and some other magazines as well. Just because it got 1 low review doesnt mean anything. The same reviwer gave lost planet a 7.1 and it ended up getting an 8.5. I still expect heavenlysword to get a very well review and I still expect it to outsell metroid 3(in frist weeks).

Why will it get a well review? Just for the fact that the gametrailers guys themselves, in the preview said they couldnt get enough of the game.

Its obvious that most of the development effort has gone into graphical technology and visuals. They don't disappoint. However - and similar to LAIR as well - a lot less effort has gone into the game play/design itself.

This is exactly what Nintendo were talking about, when talking about the PS3 compared to the Wii. Sony don't seem that concerned about pushing the gameplay envelope - the PS1/PS2 sold really well based on "last-gen" gameplay, and Sony seems (initially at least) to be keen to keep the old style of game - and incorporate new graphical tech.

(Ninty on the other hand is the exact opposite - gameplay is most important - along with input - and visuals much less important). 

HS is a 7.0-8.0 game. Get over it. Whereas BioShock will end up with a gamerankings score of around 9.5, HS will end up around 7.5-8.0.

I still think that a great game on a better selling console will sell better than an above average game on an underpeforming console.

Not a hope in hell... sorry leo-j.

Carlos - you can start preparing that avatar now...

leo-j - this is the first real review for HS. I'll wait until it gets a few more before damning the title, but the complaints seem pretty valid and hard to ignore.

If metroid sells a million in the first month heavenly sword is screwed because to get over a million it would have to have a 25% attach ratio, which i severly doubt.

Very true, only a select few games reach that attachment rate (mario games, and halo games) so i dont think theres really a chance in hell, but hey maybe every ps3 owner will buy it?

Also to the person who said galaxy will win.. yes it will if wii has a alot more people and the attachment rate is as high as some of the old ones yes it can, but look back at halos attachment rate and see how many are likely to sell

Wait wait wait let me see if I have this right Leo-J. Rather than believe the person who has completed the game and is a neutral judge. You are choosing to believe the developer. Someone who has a very high personal stake in the game? And the fact that developers are notorious for overstating how long their games are doesn't affect you either? Whenever developers announce a length for their game the first thing people on forums do is knock a few hours off. Because they know how these things work.

They tell you how long it would take to complete the game, if you did every single thing, and got lost for a bit, then stuck for a bit etc, and decided to spend a few minutes looking around every single area you came to just in case you missed something. They are not normal playthroughs, they are extended playthroughs.

The developers and back of the box of Tales of Symphonia tells me it's an 80hour + game but I know that's not true. 55hours and I had done the main story and all side quests.

@Naznatips
I haden't thought about that. I had always been given the impression lair and HS were is development long enough to be truly complete. But i guess Lair was delayed, so maybe they are rushing them.

In any case, this supports what i was saying in another thread started by Kber. This game looks really beautiful, but there are many indications that the gameplay will be lacking. I certainly dont think it will be poor, but i honestly cant see it being called anything more than average to solid. I still think it will sell like crazy (comparitively), because it seems to be ps3's flagship this yr (except perhaps R & C), and ps3 owners have little in the way of big titles until march 2008

I take you up on the Halo 3 versus SMG bet.

Actually this is a 2nd party game made by Ninja Theory published by Sony.

So no. The developer is NOT Sony. And the developers have said that the game was over 10 hours.