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@mum--why would you have gone so lite on him



 

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Mummelmann said:
twingo said:
K2 really shows what pathetic trash valve is, a bunch of has beens thats all.

 

If these were medieval times, I'd have you flogged, stoned and skinned. Just sayin.

lol medieval times.

maybe back then they were worth a damn, times change.



Khuutra said:

No matter how beautiful, how sublime, a product is, there is always goign to be someone who doesn't like it. That there is someone who doesn't like Portal doesn't surprise me.

This would be another in a long line of cases dating back to the ancient Greeks where someone mistakes that their opinion should be and/or is the universal view--in other words, an interesting, if clichéd, fallacy that, seemingly, never quite goes out of style. (In other words, it isn't enough that you enjoy a game/book/movie a great deal, but anyone that disagrees must, by extension, be foolish, wicked or stupid when it could just be, to that individual, the game/book/movie in question simply does not resonate or, put more simply, their opinion differs from your own for any number of reasons.)

(And, for the record, I generally enjoy Valve's work, if not quite to the cult-like level on display in this quote.)




This thread is made of phail. Hiphopgamer!? Really? Why would anyone with basic common sense cite Hiphopgamer...oh wait never mind.



exindguy said:
Khuutra said:

No matter how beautiful, how sublime, a product is, there is always goign to be someone who doesn't like it. That there is someone who doesn't like Portal doesn't surprise me.

This would be another in a long line of cases dating back to the ancient Greeks where someone mistakes that their opinion should be and/or is the universal view--in other words, an interesting, if clichéd, fallacy that, seemingly, never quite goes out of style. (In other words, it isn't enough that you enjoy a game/book/movie a great deal, but anyone that disagrees must, by extension, be foolish, wicked or stupid when it could just be, to that individual, the game/book/movie in question simply does not resonate or, put more simply, their opinion differs from your own for any number of reasons.)

(And, for the record, I generally enjoy Valve's work, if not quite to the cult-like level on display in this quote.)

I refuse to amend "IMO" to a statement which is reflexively my opinion, which cannot be anything but my opinion. Obviously Portal's quality is my opinion - I am not even referring to the general consensus (and there is much on this point) that Portal was the game to beat in 2007, or at least one of the top two.

I appreciate your attempt to curb the fallacy that opinion = fact, but a more rampant fallacy on this website (of which you have fallen victim to) is that "statement of opinion = statement of opinion as fact" in all cases where an "in my opinion" is not tacked onto the end of it.



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ROFFLE!

I don't know what's worse. The indignation over Gabe Newell being allowed to have an opinion that doesn't favor Sony and the PS3, or that Sony fanboys are actually making 3rd grade level fat/food jokes and then high fiving each other as if they accomplished some remotely witty act.



Tag - "No trolling on my watch!"

Im saving this thread!!!



Tease.

ClaudeLv250 said:
ROFFLE!

I don't know what's worse. The indignation over Gabe Newell being allowed to have an opinion that doesn't favor Sony and the PS3, or that Sony fanboys are actually making 3rd grade level fat/food jokes and then high fiving each other as if they accomplished some remotely witty act.

 

ok this post made me laugh, nice.



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mesoteto said:
darthdevidem01 said:
@mesoteto

but KZ2 isn't an average shooter as proved by the reviews....the gameplay is just as stunning

@gebx

yeah well then Infinity Ward did COD4 in 2 years....n look at the sales they got

it beat halo overall and became the Playstation brands top selling shooter (PS2's highest was killzone 1 at 2.5 million I think)

 

every video i have seen seem to me to be the run of teh mill gun formula

 

1--step into similar enviroment

2--pull out gun and look for bad guys

3--horde of bad guys spawns and swarms

4--some go for cover, soe go for your back, some are meat sheilds

5--empty clip and destroy wave

6--repeat 1-5 again

7-get new gun

8--repeat 1-7

 

only this time it looks fantastic for something not on the pc (i only add the pc part b/c we all now the high end gaming machines will always put us to shame...well if you have a few k to throw down on one anyways)

Halo? Gears? COD? Are those just average shooters too?

I'm getting sick of this coming up all the time. What is a NON-average shooter? What does a shooter have to do to not be average in your eyes? You think L4D isn't average? Instead of killing maybe 5 or 6 guys in one setting you kill 20. Is L4D thus not average because of numbers? So basically...because L4D is just Dynasty Warriors in first person, it's totally "fresh" "new" and "innovative".....get the f*** outta here

Edit: And I happen to thoroughly enjoy L4D



BMaker11 said:
mesoteto said:
darthdevidem01 said:
@mesoteto

but KZ2 isn't an average shooter as proved by the reviews....the gameplay is just as stunning

@gebx

yeah well then Infinity Ward did COD4 in 2 years....n look at the sales they got

it beat halo overall and became the Playstation brands top selling shooter (PS2's highest was killzone 1 at 2.5 million I think)

 

every video i have seen seem to me to be the run of teh mill gun formula

 

1--step into similar enviroment

2--pull out gun and look for bad guys

3--horde of bad guys spawns and swarms

4--some go for cover, soe go for your back, some are meat sheilds

5--empty clip and destroy wave

6--repeat 1-5 again

7-get new gun

8--repeat 1-7

 

only this time it looks fantastic for something not on the pc (i only add the pc part b/c we all now the high end gaming machines will always put us to shame...well if you have a few k to throw down on one anyways)

Halo? Gears? COD? Are those just average shooters too?

 What does a shooter have to do to not be average in your eyes? You think L4D isn't average? Instead of killing maybe 5 or 6 guys in one setting you kill 20. Is L4D thus not average because of numbers? So basically...because L4D is just Dynasty Warriors in first person, it's totally "fresh" "new" and "innovative".....get the f*** outta here

 

your right most of those games are averag

but l4d is more of a mix of dungeon spawner, dynasty warriors, and fps action, with survival horro thorwn i

so yeah its pretty new

and FYI a shooter can be new and inventive

look at condemned 2 for proof of that , that game while flawed in some ways had a great new experience to the FPS area-----make a FPS that doosent rely on only guns and has a kick ass fighting system as well

if your out of ammo flip the GD gun around a beat the hell out of teh bum rushing you or rip a pipe from the wall and smash his face in  (greatest game this gen so far and best new series in the last 5 years) and dont even get me started on trying to solve crimes by interprting teh crime scenes and being rewarded for how wqell you do....good talking about that games makes me want a thrid one so bad!!!

so dont give me that crap about "I'm getting sick of this coming up all the time. What is a NON-average shooter?"

they are out there is you take off the blinders and look