^^The hiccups he's talking about are the fact that it can't run on the 360, i mean what kinda ps3 exclusive doesn't run on the 360, why did they have to make the graphics so good

Pretty much my feelings as well.

God of War vs Sim City

^Nah, more than Resistance vs. Uncharted.

Actually, no. Uncharted vs. Shadow of the Colossus. Both excellent games, but one of them is a classic.

two different types of games. both will have their strong points and both will be very good

Graphic - Yes
Characters - NO ( Snake FTW)
Story -Hell NO!
Gameplay - 50/50
Online - Yes
Multiplayer - OH YES!

Sales - Its gonna be hard. MGS4 will win this battle.  Unless Sony advertise.

a classic just means that it's old.

My point was that you can't compare these games as they are in different genres.. way different.

mgs4 is a classic. hurry konami, get a substance release out with mgs1 loaded on disc.

or even better. mgs4 legendary edition with 2 blurays, 1 with mgs4 with added features and on disc mgo add ons. and disc 2 featuring mgs1 mgs2 and msg3........

Graphics = Killzone wins here.

Story = Ok I don't think anywone knows the entire story for killzone 2, but chances are MGS4 will have the better story so....can't say.

Characters = While I can't say for certain, no one in my book can beat the cast of MGS series as a whole. There are characters I like more, but everyone in that universe flows wonderfully together

Online = This is a matter of opinion. MGO online is a complete different game from Killzones so it's an either or. For me it's a hard desicion. Killzone will keep me in for a long ass time but MGO drags me back in every month or so.

Gameplay = Read above. TPS Stealth game vs FPS action.

Sales = Honestly no fucking clue. MGS4 did extremely well and has a moderate fanbase while killzone has a small but dedicated fanbase, however can attract more people since it is a FPS. With ps3 recent game sales I'm thinking MGS will have a slight edge, however the probability of me being wrong could be high.