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You talking this stuff way to serious. Also Nintendo was never in any real trouble the only console they made that was a failure is the Virtual Boy. When the N64 and the GameCube didn't do so great they had the Gameboy and GBA that did great.



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If you are so angry about it go to Gametrailers.com, bunch of sony boys there, maybe you'll feel better....not saying this website is full of 360 fanboys, cause we all know who populates this place the most.....still though give it a go...



Ronster316 said:

What do you mean "You people?"

Ok ok, i like tropic thunder

Didn't it occour that theres lots of us out there who liked certain other companies who were genuine games developers long before sony gatecrashed the party waving thier chequebook around and buying their way to the top?

It must be depressing for you to not be able to play Sega's best RPG they've released this decade.



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Then follow young Mat whenever he calls,
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This generation has highlighted one flaw in your logic. With all the competition Sony still felt no compunction whatsoever about engaging in all the poor behavior you sighted. Thus the undeniable truth is that Sony does not abide by the rules of common sense, or behave in a manner that is beneficial to gamers as a whole.

Sony high jacked their loyal customer base into a format war. That had little to no bearing on gaming. While they were at that they used their first party hardware in their console. Which as most developers have said has a lot of drawbacks for them, and does not result in better gaming. In fact Sony has bragged about this. The screwing over of third party developers for their own gain. Then this came with a steep price tag which gamers were expected to pick up. Yes this is something a friend would do to you.

Speaking as to the gobbling up of third parties. Sony is perhaps the biggest vulture of the lot. Sony in the past five years has probably only acquired twenty studios. How does that benefit third parties. The answer is it does not. It comes at the cost of their bottom lines. When they have to face off against a dozen first party games every year. Usually with fantastic bankrolls. Which Sony can absorb, but a smaller studio has no hope to match.

I honestly do not see the upside to having Sony being a console player. In fact Sony needs to lose badly to send a message down through the years about not abusing others for your own gain. Not taking customers for granted, not abusing your partners, and having some humility. In much the same way Atari had to be the morality tale about ensuring quality control. Sony is just not being a positive force.

I know its bashing, but someone has to present the contrary view. Sony did not respond to competition, and has made it a point to crush all forms of competition. Sony needs to learn the meaning of the word cooperate. Microsoft and Nintendo do a far better job of working with others for mutual benefit. They also do a better job of putting the customer further ahead in their plans.

Speaking to your argument about people losing their jobs. Sony has cost other people their jobs for years. This is what competition means they have run a lot of other players out of the business. These people will eventually get new jobs. It is not as if they go into a black hole. They move on and work for different companies. When Sony is not making the games to fill a spot someone else will, and that someone else will need employees.

This is hostage mentality at its worst. Sony can do whatever they damn well please, because it would be sad if they had to fire their employees. Why aren't you thinking about the people losing their jobs, because of what Sony is doing to them. Cannot be bothered to think of a developer like Free Radical, or Factor 5? All those employees out of a job, because of what Sony did.

I want to hear more about how Sony is actually benefiting the industry and gamers. I sure as hell haven't seen a lot this generation, and as I said the competition argument is blowing smoke. The competition did not force Sony to do right by anyone except for Sony. Competition is neither good nor bad. It has its moments, and it has its drawbacks. Sony was not competing, and under your assumption it is not a defense for why they should stay.

Perhaps Sony has behaved badly enough that they need to leave the industry? Has that thought occurred to you? There is such a thing as getting what you have coming, and the shit Sony pulled this generation should probably come with a high price.



outlawauron said:
Ronster316 said:

What do you mean "You people?"

Ok ok, i like tropic thunder

Didn't it occour that theres lots of us out there who liked certain other companies who were genuine games developers long before sony gatecrashed the party waving thier chequebook around and buying their way to the top?

It must be depressing for you to not be able to play Sega's best RPG they've released this decade.

What are you talking about the best RPG Sega has released in the past ten years is still Skies of Arcadia any true RPG fan knows this.

 



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"How could you people absolutely want a company to fail."

Because they aren't real gamers, they're fanboys. In the case of wanting the PS3 to fail, they're largely butthurt Sega and Nintendo fanboys who are still crying about what happened in the 5th console generation.



It is called fanboyism.



@ chris hu: outlawauron is just responding to Ronster's broken record about how Sony caused the demise of Sega and needs universal punishment for it by pointing out that the best RPG that Sega has released this generation is on his hated console, nothing more.



I have no intention of ever getting a PS3 and I am critical of the poor management and decisions that have caused most of Sony's problems. I also think that they no longer have industry leading quality in much of their electronics line though they still price things as though they did.

That said, I do not wish for Sony to fail or to even go out of the gaming industry. The trolley may have gotten off the tracks this time around but the company that created the Playstation 2 has proven what it can do and must do again.



Chris Hu said:
outlawauron said:
Ronster316 said:

What do you mean "You people?"

Ok ok, i like tropic thunder

Didn't it occour that theres lots of us out there who liked certain other companies who were genuine games developers long before sony gatecrashed the party waving thier chequebook around and buying their way to the top?

It must be depressing for you to not be able to play Sega's best RPG they've released this decade.

What are you talking about the best RPG Sega has released in the past ten years is still Skies of Arcadia any true RPG fan knows this.

Well Skies of Arcadia is a great game, but so is Valkyria Chronicles. Being that the old Overworks team made it (people behind Skies of Arcadia and Sakura Taisen), it lived up to their old games and in my opinion greatly surpassed it.



"We'll toss the dice however they fall,
And snuggle the girls be they short or tall,
Then follow young Mat whenever he calls,
To dance with Jak o' the Shadows."

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