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"Microsoft makes more money then Nintendo"

Limited focus company versus corporation. I ought to report this for extreme stupidity.

"maybe Nintendo should learn from Sony how to make good games."

Who's making loads of money off their games?



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overall id say microsoft have fucked up in three ways so far..

-RROD
-crappy D pad
- huge powerbrick

apart from that the 360 is pretty awesome.. and maybe adding in wifi on the elite/pro wouldnt be such a bad idea.



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5 THINGS I'd like to see before i knock out:

a. a AAA 3D sonic title

b. a nintendo developed game that has a "M rating"

c. redesgined PS controller

d. SEGA back in the console business

e. M$ out of the OS business

MrBubbles said:

Welcome to part two of our three-part series (Here are six of Sony’s advantages, in case you missed them). This time we’ll talk about seven things that give the Xbox 360 an advantage over the PlayStation 3 and the Wii.

1. Build a Feature-Perfect, Unified Online System

By far one of Microsoft’s biggest advantages at the start of this generation was its brilliant online system, Xbox Live. Sony and Nintendo’s systems just couldn’t hold water to the brilliance of Live, with its beautifully integrated friends system and in game dashboard. However, Sony has considerably improved the PlayStation Network to the point where it is has nearly reached the caliber of Xbox Live, but Nintendo’s online system, on the other hand, is still archaic and quite useless.

2. Interact With the Community

Another great idea Microsoft had for this generation was a huge amount of direct interaction with the community. Starting off with Major Nelson, expanding to the recently deceased Gamerscore Blog, and finally pushing it directly onto Xbox Live, Microsoft has been the best when it comes to directly talking to its consumers. Sony is getting better with their PlayStation blog, but again, Nintendo fails in this category because even high level journalists have trouble getting the information from Nintendo that Microsoft and Sony freely give to everyone.

 

3. Aggressively Price Cut

Microsoft knows that when its console is selling a slowly (the first half of 2008), they need to slash the price (which they did in September). Sony did cut the PS3’s price ferociously (cheapest SKU originally $499, now $399), but they need a cut now: the PS3 isn’t exactly flying off the shelves and a $50 price cut would help alleviate that problem. Nintendo, on the other hand, hasn’t moved its price down a cent, mostly because they haven’t had to. However when if the demand for Wii’s ever slows down, Nintendo needs to be ready to reduce the Wii’s price.

4. Implement Netflix

One of my favorite features of the Xbox 360 is its ability to stream Netflix movies and TV shows in seconds. Sony and Nintendo really need to strike up a deal with Netflix (or Blockbuster) because, in my opinion, this is a huge selling-feature for the 360.

5. Make Regular, Relevant, and Expansive Software Updates

One of my least favorite parts of the PS3 is Sony’s software updates. Not only do they seem to happen whenever I’m really craving some LittleBigPlanet, but some of them are so trite that you wish you could skip them entirely. For example, the latest PS3 firmware, firmware 2.60, added a photo sorting feature. While the feature is interesting, I really do wonder why Sony took time and resources to develop this when the system clearly needs other enhancements (a Home update, for example). I like Sony’s decision to fix bugs on the fly but I think it should be limited to fixing bugs and glitches, not adding big software updates; Sony should make a regular (2-4 times a year) software update that adds a plethora of features. Not only would this excite the community (look at how people get into a tizzy about the latest 360 software update), but it would also stop the system from rudely interrupting my playing time for a ten minute software update that I probably don’t want.

Nintendo’s software updates have been neither regular, relevant, or expansive so it again loses in this category.

6. Snatch up exclusives (or Take Them from the Competition)

Without a doubt, the 360 has the best third-party exclusives of each of the three consoles. That’s mostly because Microsoft has been very smart in their pursuit of exclusives. They are very good at realizing a game’s potential and snatching it up as their own before the competition can get to it (for example, Crackdown). Microsoft has also been very good at stealing what were previously PS3 exclusives and making them multi-platform titles (Devil May Cry 4, Final Fantasy XIII). Sony and Nintendo have great first-party lineups but Sony’s third-party exclusives are slim pickings and Nintendo’s are crap.

7. Release Your Console First

Perhaps Microsoft’s smartest move this generation was its decision to beat the competition to market by releasing the Xbox 360 first. The decision gave them a big head start in install base over the competitors (although Nintendo did overcome that obstacle quite fast) and more time to lower the price of the Xbox 360. This head start gave Microsoft a big advantage, especially over Sony

 

http://secondstorygamer.com/2009/01/microsoft-teach-sony-nintendo/

 

1. The vast majority of gamers could not care less about online gameplay, with or without all of the features in Xbox Live. Only one out of every four 360 owners even have a gold account.

2. I'd say from sales and notoriety that Nintendo has reached a far larger community than Microsoft ever will.

3. The effects of price cuts are largely front-loaded, and then there's the law of diminishing returns. One a product hits a certain price point, further price cuts aren't going to mean a s much. This point fails anyway because if a console is released at an affordable price to begin with, this isn't an issue.

4. If the vast majority of gamers don't care about online gameplay, then what in the hell makes anyone think that they care about Netflix, a service that hasn't a motherfucking thing to do with gaming?

5. Are you kidding me?

6. It takes more than just a few big-name exclusives every year to push hardware. It takes a steady stream, a strong, standing library of games, and this is something that Microsoft still doesn't grasp even to this day.

7. No console that has launched first has ever won, and MS made sure that the 360 would be no different when they priced it at $400, failed to make it appeal to more demographics, and ignored quality issues that led to the RROD.

 

Microsoft is the last company in the world from whom anyone should take advice on how to manufacture or support a console.

 

 

 



 

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LordTheNightKnight said:
"Microsoft makes more money then Nintendo"

Limited focus company versus corporation. I ought to report this for extreme stupidity.

"maybe Nintendo should learn from Sony how to make good games."

Who's making loads of money off their games?

 

i ought to report this for a violation of rule 9.



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I agree with 1, 2, 5 & 7.
3 & 6 are just lame.



 

 

 

 

 

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I all dpends on which stragey they wantto take Sony and M$ are the most similar in nature so they would need to battle but Nintendo is a whole new beast

In other words for you rpg fans:
M$ is like an Ice dragon
Sony is a Water Dragon

and Nintendo is just a Light elemental dragon.

There you go



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Griffin said:
Nebnosneh said:
Seven things Nintendo can teach Microsoft and Sony:

1. How to make money
2. How to make money
3. How to make money
4. How to make money
5. How to make money
6. How to make money
7. How to make money

Microsoft makes more money then Nintendo, maybe Nintendo should learn from Sony how to make good games.

Mmmm....

Top 3 Nintendo Games & Average Review Score based on Gamerankings.com:

Super Mario Galaxy - 97.262%

Legend of Zelda - Twilight Princess - 94.389%

Super Smash Bros. Brawl - 93.024%

 

Top 3 Sony Games & Average Review Score based on Gamerankings.com:

LittleBigPlanet - 94.524%

Uncharted - 89.768%

Ratchet&Clank Future - 88.809%

 

Seems to me that Nintendo has and will always be superior in game quality.. 8D

 

 



Shanobi said:
Griffin said:
Nebnosneh said:
Seven things Nintendo can teach Microsoft and Sony:

1. How to make money
2. How to make money
3. How to make money
4. How to make money
5. How to make money
6. How to make money
7. How to make money

Microsoft makes more money then Nintendo, maybe Nintendo should learn from Sony how to make good games.

 

 

Considering Nintendo's games have spanked the revenues of the entire industry, I think you're really grasping here. 

 

If anything, Sony has "borrowed' almost everything it does in games from Nintendo.

 

 Sales doesnt make the game better at all.



^^ Stop Cherrypicking



Snake said:
Shanobi said:
Griffin said:
Nebnosneh said:
Seven things Nintendo can teach Microsoft and Sony:

1. How to make money
2. How to make money
3. How to make money
4. How to make money
5. How to make money
6. How to make money
7. How to make money

Microsoft makes more money then Nintendo, maybe Nintendo should learn from Sony how to make good games.

 

 

Considering Nintendo's games have spanked the revenues of the entire industry, I think you're really grasping here. 

 

If anything, Sony has "borrowed' almost everything it does in games from Nintendo.

 

 Sales doesnt make the game better at all.

Mario Galaxy, Mario Kart, Twilight Princess, Brawl, etc all have outstanding reviews(baring Mario Kart) and excellent sales to match. 

 

I don't understand how anyone could even argue that Nintendo has terrible software..