hahahhaha... good one

Technical proposals... yay, that means it will arrive only about 2 years after the systems launch and far too late for any games to bother with it. Fun.

whoa! 4D graphics (that make cars more realistic than reals cars) and now advanced vibration (that is not normal ruble)! err...what is advanced vibrations? is this vibration more realistic than real vibration? :P

get ready to buy four NEW controllers =)

It's alright I already bought 6 for the Wii.

This is old news by the way. The rumble controllers should come out before the end of the year.

Yeah...tell me you don't seriously think that games aren't going to use the rumble after this comes out.

No it's not that, I phrased that badly, it's that games that are on their way that need it (Killzone 2, Heavenly Sword, etc.) will not have it. That's what annoys me.

I agree it should have been sooner than now. 

Better late than never I suppose, but there are a lot of great games comming out that would be better with rumble.

I have to disagree with you when you say Killzone won't have it. If it comes out in may of next year and the controller is coming end of this year, I am sure that in 5 months GG could get some vibration code done. Plus they are first party Sony, and they are working on the biggest game on the PS3, if any game would have it this would be it. HS however will not have it as it is coming oput in 3 weeks. That is not to say the devs couldn't come back and put it in a patch. Also if Sony does in fact bring back AV they will be packing it in with the system, so all future games would use it.

P.S. I am just scared what John Carmack will say about the PS3 having this new AV. He will probably say it is utter non sense. It takes up 32MB of RAM, and it is to hard to Program for.

Just Kidin LOL