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Jo21 said:
CMoney said:
APPLE'S hyped iPHONE has a 9-11% failure rate within 2 years and 6% in the first year.

Blackberry phones have 12% failure rate within 1 year and 14% after 2 years

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-10092377-94.html

Electronics malfunctions are actually quite common. Microsoft is the only company offering a 3 year warranty.

Yeah it sucks, but it really isn't as big a deal as people make it out to be

 

for cellphones its 2 years now both sony ericsson and nokia offer such warranty via cellphone companies, but not many nokias comes with problems, the n76 did have a peeling issue. and the sony ericsson w580 had a broken key problem but nothing as bad as leaving the phone unsable.

also iphone and blackberry are not nothing in market share... iphone its not even 1% compared to nokia almost 40% marketshare.

 

Actually you don't know what you're talking about. At least here in the USA Nokia phones have 1 year warranties.  I have had 3 nokia phones and each has just a 1 year warranty.  Also, I have T-mobile as my wireless cell phone provider but they only have a 1 year warranty as well.  Both are only valid within 1 year of purchase.

Secondly, saying the "iphone and blackberry are nothing in market share" shows me exactly how ignorant and foolish you are.

The iphone has been destroying nokia's smart phone market share.  The iphone has only been out 2 years and already it is causing nokia problems and threatening it. 

http://www.electronista.com/articles/08/12/02/needham.on.iphone.share/

Even more shocking is the fact that the iphone has been able to capture nokia's market share while only be sold by few wireless carriers.  Conversly, nokia has phone selling deals with all major networks and carriers.

A little research would do you some good :)



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Euphoria14 said:
You know, what is funny for me in regards to the RRoD thing is that both my Wii and PS3 have given me problems, my PS3 controllers won't connect unless I hook them up with usb first. My 360 however is the only one that has yet to give me any trouble what so ever. *knock on wood*

Have you tried using a paperclip on the PS3 controller to reset it? I had the same problem.

Signalstar said:
Blu Ray has a scratch proof coat. Scratches on PS3 games are rare.

I'm not posting this to insult the 360 or say the PS3 is better just pointing how effin annoying it is when a brand new copy of Madden 09 is interuppted halfway through and comes out with a fresh circular scratch that was not there before.

 

Yeah, I remember CD's and DVD's had one of those scratch proof coats too. Time will tell.

If you are talking about the specific circular, deep all around scratch that's a differen thing from the normal wear and tear optical media goes through.

@Jo: Jaspers are looking quite promising... a few months more and we'll know how well they last. Maybe in time for Star Ocean ;) I know what you mean with electronic's bad luck, it's happened to me too.





Current-gen game collection uploaded on the profile, full of win and good games; also most of my PC games. Lucasfilm Games/LucasArts 1982-2008 (Requiescat In Pace).

nokia sells 400 million phones each year,

equals 40% and 80 million + are smartphone iphone isn't destroying nokia marketshare worlwide.

nokia (alone)  have about 40% of the smartphone market share.

they are huge in europe asia etc, nokia never being huge in america but they are HUGE in worlwide.

worlwide, thats nothing, iphone sales are not even 1% yet. counting all phones.

Krusell - TOP-10 selling phones in November 2008

December 3rd, 2008 by Kristofer

1. (-) Samsung SGH-i900/i910 Omnia

2. (7) Nokia 6300

3. (2) Sony Ericsson C702

4. (1) Apple iPhone 3G

5. (3) Nokia 3109

6. (-) Nokia N96

7. (-) Sony Ericsson X1 Xperia

8. (8) Nokia E71

9. (6) Nokia E51

10. (4) HTC Diamond

they don't depend on one phone for marketshare, and got a strong brand recognition, because of their quality even their low end phones are strong built.

 @frogs i hope but i have my doubts >_>

unless iphone start selling 100 million iphone each year ( it never going to happen) , nokia isn't scared.

thats why the nokia n97 is comming

and always deliver (L) we are getting off topic, i am off to bed.



Jo21 said:

nokia sells 400 million phones each year,

equals 40% and 80 million + are smartphone iphone isn't destroying nokia marketshare worlwide.

nokia (alone)  have about 40% of the smartphone market share.

they are huge in europe asia etc, nokia never being huge in america but they are HUGE in worlwide.

worlwide, thats nothing, iphone sales are not even 1% yet. counting all phones.

Krusell - TOP-10 selling phones in November 2008

December 3rd, 2008 by Kristofer

1. (-) Samsung SGH-i900/i910 Omnia

2. (7) Nokia 6300

3. (2) Sony Ericsson C702

4. (1) Apple iPhone 3G

5. (3) Nokia 3109

6. (-) Nokia N96

7. (-) Sony Ericsson X1 Xperia

8. (8) Nokia E71

9. (6) Nokia E51

10. (4) HTC Diamond

they don't depend on one phone for marketshare, and got a strong brand recognition, because of their quality even their low end phones are strong built.

 @frogs i hope but i have my doubts >_>

unless iphone start selling 100 million iphone each year ( it never going to happen) , nokia isn't scared.

thats why the nokia n97 is comming

and always deliver (L) we are getting off topic, i am off to bed.

 

Now we've drifted off to cellphones? oh lol

Anyways, I'll bite. The N97 looks great in marketing shots n stuff but there's nothing special about it. I've used nokia's s60 for years. Their interface (yes, the touch one too) is clunky and the ecosystem around symbian stinks because Nokia didn't build the platform in a way a good ecosystem could grow. It is true however that it's open and not a walled garden ala iPhone.

But the iPhone, as a concept, it's years ahead of those Nokias. And it's extremely profitable - even with the few million units sold, Apple's making out like bandits. Its ironic that Apple grew in a year a better ecosystem than Nokia did in years with the s60.





Current-gen game collection uploaded on the profile, full of win and good games; also most of my PC games. Lucasfilm Games/LucasArts 1982-2008 (Requiescat In Pace).

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Bitmap Frogs said:
Jo21 said:

nokia sells 400 million phones each year,

equals 40% and 80 million + are smartphone iphone isn't destroying nokia marketshare worlwide.

nokia (alone)  have about 40% of the smartphone market share.

they are huge in europe asia etc, nokia never being huge in america but they are HUGE in worlwide.

worlwide, thats nothing, iphone sales are not even 1% yet. counting all phones.

Krusell - TOP-10 selling phones in November 2008

December 3rd, 2008 by Kristofer

1. (-) Samsung SGH-i900/i910 Omnia

2. (7) Nokia 6300

3. (2) Sony Ericsson C702

4. (1) Apple iPhone 3G

5. (3) Nokia 3109

6. (-) Nokia N96

7. (-) Sony Ericsson X1 Xperia

8. (8) Nokia E71

9. (6) Nokia E51

10. (4) HTC Diamond

they don't depend on one phone for marketshare, and got a strong brand recognition, because of their quality even their low end phones are strong built.

 @frogs i hope but i have my doubts >_>

unless iphone start selling 100 million iphone each year ( it never going to happen) , nokia isn't scared.

thats why the nokia n97 is comming

and always deliver (L) we are getting off topic, i am off to bed.

 

Now we've drifted off to cellphones? oh lol

Anyways, I'll bite. The N97 looks great in marketing shots n stuff but there's nothing special about it. I've used nokia's s60 for years. Their interface (yes, the touch one too) is clunky and the ecosystem around symbian stinks because Nokia didn't build the platform in a way a good ecosystem could grow. It is true however that it's open and not a walled garden ala iPhone.

But the iPhone, as a concept, it's years ahead of those Nokias. And it's extremely profitable - even with the few million units sold, Apple's making out like bandits. Its ironic that Apple grew in a year a better ecosystem than Nokia did in years with the s60.

nokia it'sprofitable, n97 still yet to be released, nokia was working on hardware not software, they changed to services recently (2007).

and expect n97 to look just as good as in the video when it's released, the done it with mp3 sound quality (n91), and camera quality, (n95-n82). they will for it touch interface.

they will do it for software, also if you mean animations which it's the only thing the iphone have that s60 only recently got, and its disable in touch interfaces for a while.

they go all basic covered, even copy/paste, flash video in their mobile browser which is fast, (based on the kde webkit).

stereo bluetooth and many things iphone lacks... like VGA video recording , 5mpx-8mpx autofocus cameras. and yes people care since nokia sold over 10 million n95 faster than the iphone.

samsung its putting more pressure than apple is. with its 8mpx phones.



I find it really funny that people would actually defend a company for taking them for a mug.



 

 assumption is the mother of all f**k ups 

Wow. Talking about RRoD in 2008? talk about beating a dead horse.

I'd say Nintendo's laughable first party lineup for the Q4 was a bigger disappointment then MS's problem that's been known for 2 years now and which the company has acknowledged, provided a resolution for it's customers and re-assured it's potential customers (new chipset).

Then again, I don't read gameinformer, so this article means jack to me.



Wheres toastboy to come and say 'rrod doesnt exist anymore!' ???



I hope my 360 doesn't RRoD
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colonelstubbs said:
Wheres toastboy to come and say 'rrod doesnt exist anymore!' ???

Don't bring him here. I don't want to look at his creepy avatar.