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Rath on 20 January 2009
Strategyking92 said:
vlad321 said:

No, it's exactly people like you. The ones who think that they are better and anyone who doesn't have the same beliefs should be pitied. I don't think you realize just how ironic your previous post was. Hate to break it to you but all your beliefs do not apply to us, so please save your pity for someone who actually needs it.

 

Ha! It's not pity, merely disbelief that someone would choose a dark nothingness after death.

I don't know if you misunderstood me or what, but you seem to still be clinging to a stereotype.

 

 

To quote you "I was feeling sympathetic, it's human compassion!". How is that not pity?

Also to atheists what happens after death isn't a choice, its just what is.

 



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BTFeather55 on 20 January 2009
vlad321 said:
Kasz216 said:
vlad321 said:
Kasz216 said:
 

I'm pretty sure his plan was to have everyones mind washed by the time the "Great Leader" died to the point of where no other great leader would be needed again since society would be reporgrammed.

Though that would mean killing off everyone who helped reprogram everyone... and all in all Marxs communist ideals would of been well... the worst crime ever commited in the history of mankind by an unspeakable margin... in the hopes that it would be worth it in the end.

One great final deed of evil to fix the wrongs of the world and all that. Become the devil yoruself... yadda yadda.

Been a while since i read it... but most people seem to think Marx plan was "The workers will all get fed up and yay! Everyone will agree that everyone deserves an equal amount of everything."

When it was really "the people will revolt, and the leaders should take control and sacrifice entire generations of people for the good of the world."

 

 

I need to get around to reading that too... I'[ve been too time constrained ever since getting into college. However, one great evil to remove all future evils really is fine by me. Depending on how great the evil is, preferably it doesn't include mass massacres.

 

As for the American Government and Marx. The distribution of wealth in the US is even worse (fewer people holding more wealth) than what Marx speculated.

It would have to involve mass murders. No other way for it to work out the way he plans it out.

You'd need to basically kill or segregate entire groups of older people who thought differently or threaten to kill them...

reducate the children till they all thought of communism as natural, and then kill off all the government.... then comit suicide.

Only way to make the despotisim that would reducate everyone go away into one giant brainwashing away of things such as desire.

It's not a bad read really, i had to read a bunch of marx for my psychology major.

As for what marx speculated... while wealth is more unevenly distributed... the actual living conditions are much higher then he ever thought possible.

 

Huh, I had a choice to pick Marx for one of my english classes (every class had a theme they focused on). I ended up choosing zombies which turned out FAR more enlightening than I could have ever expected. Also it turned out to be the hardest of all the english classes.... I didn't know there was so much social commentary in that topic at all.

 

     I can imagine that.   Several of zombie movies including ones by Romero, Fulci, Lenzi, and others (as well as some of the cannibal films from the 70's -- they were popular back then for some reason especially among Eurotrash film makers) would have a communistic bent to them because at heart they are very much about the haves (humans) and the have nots (zombies and tribal cannibals).  Just see Dawn of the Dead and the last ten minutes of Day of the Dead for example.

 



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Kasz216 on 20 January 2009
Slimebeast said:
Kasz216 said:
Strategyking92 said:
I was laughing on the inside because of it

It was like a big "f*ck you, atheists!" when the preacher started praying.
And since obama is one of the most liberal presidents in a long time, this made it even all the more funny!


BTW, everyone who said you are an athiest, that's kind of depressing.

Well he is very religious despite being very liberal.  He does plan to greatly expand Bush's funding of churches and other religious orginizations with government money... that and his constant talk of god made him threaten a lot of evangelical votes despite his pro-life stance.

I mean the vast majority of our Presidents weren't really religious at all....

I mean the most religious are probably Obama and Bush Senior...

and like a couple of the earlier ones that weren't Free Masons.  (Of which there are like  14-18.  I mean... being a freemason doesn't exclude one from being religious... but they were very open about accepting all religions.)

 


Can you explain this?

Is Obama very religious?  (and by that do you mean he is an active church goer and respects religious people and religion as an institution, or do you believe he is an actual believer?)

"despite his pro-life stance" - are you talking about Obama or someone else??

And Bush Senior more religious than Bush Jr?? I never got the impression that Bush Sr was very religious while Bush Jr has been very open with his faith and being born again and stuff.

 

Meant to say pro-choice and Bush junior.

Bush, and Carter are the most religious presidents we've had recently.

 



Strategyking92 on 20 January 2009
Rath said:
Strategyking92 said:
vlad321 said:

No, it's exactly people like you. The ones who think that they are better and anyone who doesn't have the same beliefs should be pitied. I don't think you realize just how ironic your previous post was. Hate to break it to you but all your beliefs do not apply to us, so please save your pity for someone who actually needs it.

 

Ha! It's not pity, merely disbelief that someone would choose a dark nothingness after death.

I don't know if you misunderstood me or what, but you seem to still be clinging to a stereotype.

 

 

To quote you "I was feeling sympathetic, it's human compassion!". How is that not pity?

Also to atheists what happens after death isn't a choice, its just what is.

 

I couldn't think of the right words... but I did not mean pity.

I sometimes have a hard time of getting my point across

Sorry if I offended you, or anyone besides vlad. (he pissed me off)

 



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coolestguyever on 20 January 2009

I believe in God.

Mainly because I think God creating the planet makes more sense then some "big bang". I also find it hard to believe in evolution, your saying we used to be monkeys or fish or something?

Over the past couple hundred years the only evolution would be humans getting taller on average. No sign of us transforming



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The_vagabond7 on 20 January 2009
coolestguyever said:
I believe in God.

Mainly because I think God creating the planet makes more sense then some "big bang". I also find it hard to believe in evolution, your saying we used to be monkeys or fish or something?

Over the past couple hundred years the only evolution would be humans getting taller on average. No sign of us transforming

 

You know evolution took place over more than a billion years right? I'm not going to get into a big discussion about it here, but that's just silly reasoning right there.



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vlad321 on 20 January 2009
Strategyking92 said:
vlad321 said:

No, it's exactly people like you. The ones who think that they are better and anyone who doesn't have the same beliefs should be pitied. I don't think you realize just how ironic your previous post was. Hate to break it to you but all your beliefs do not apply to us, so please save your pity for someone who actually needs it.

 

Ha! It's not pity, merely disbelief that someone would choose a dark nothingness after death.

I don't know if you misunderstood me or what, but you seem to still be clinging to a stereotype.

 

 

 

It's not about it being convinient. It just is. I'm not about to paint nice pretty pictures with rainbows and unicrons. The world is flawed, no I'm sorry, it SUCKS. People are assholes and suck and will kill each other. And when I die.... it will be just like before I was born. I see the world and people for what they are, I don't try to avoid the truth (cept after death, we don't know yet), the world is far far from being perfect and that's that.



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Snake612 on 20 January 2009

I believe that God is King of Kings. He is the creator of all things.



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Signalstar on 20 January 2009

I do not care about religion at all no opinion whatsoever.



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vlad321 on 20 January 2009
BTFeather55 said:
vlad321 said:
Kasz216 said:
vlad321 said:
Kasz216 said:

I'm pretty sure his plan was to have everyones mind washed by the time the "Great Leader" died to the point of where no other great leader would be needed again since society would be reporgrammed.

Though that would mean killing off everyone who helped reprogram everyone... and all in all Marxs communist ideals would of been well... the worst crime ever commited in the history of mankind by an unspeakable margin... in the hopes that it would be worth it in the end.

One great final deed of evil to fix the wrongs of the world and all that. Become the devil yoruself... yadda yadda.

Been a while since i read it... but most people seem to think Marx plan was "The workers will all get fed up and yay! Everyone will agree that everyone deserves an equal amount of everything."

When it was really "the people will revolt, and the leaders should take control and sacrifice entire generations of people for the good of the world."

 

 

I need to get around to reading that too... I'[ve been too time constrained ever since getting into college. However, one great evil to remove all future evils really is fine by me. Depending on how great the evil is, preferably it doesn't include mass massacres.

 

As for the American Government and Marx. The distribution of wealth in the US is even worse (fewer people holding more wealth) than what Marx speculated.

It would have to involve mass murders. No other way for it to work out the way he plans it out.

You'd need to basically kill or segregate entire groups of older people who thought differently or threaten to kill them...

reducate the children till they all thought of communism as natural, and then kill off all the government.... then comit suicide.

Only way to make the despotisim that would reducate everyone go away into one giant brainwashing away of things such as desire.

It's not a bad read really, i had to read a bunch of marx for my psychology major.

As for what marx speculated... while wealth is more unevenly distributed... the actual living conditions are much higher then he ever thought possible.

 

Huh, I had a choice to pick Marx for one of my english classes (every class had a theme they focused on). I ended up choosing zombies which turned out FAR more enlightening than I could have ever expected. Also it turned out to be the hardest of all the english classes.... I didn't know there was so much social commentary in that topic at all.

 

     I can imagine that a lot of Zombie movies by Romero, Fulci, Lenzi, and others (as well as some of the cannibal films from the 70's -- they were popular back then for some reason especially among Eurotrash film makers) would have a communistic bent to them because at heart they are very much about the haves (humans) and the have nots (zombies and tribal cannibals).  Just see Dawn of the Dead and the last ten minutes of Day of the Dead for example.

 

Actually they are almost exclusively about consumerism. Also what is consciousness and what actually defines a zombie and what is the real diference between a human and a "zombie." They had nothing to do with communism and capitalism at all.

It's absolutely fascinating and deep stuff.



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