vlad321 on 20 January 2009
BTFeather55 said:
vlad321 said:
Kasz216 said:
vlad321 said:
Kasz216 said:
I'm pretty sure his plan was to have everyones mind washed by the time the "Great Leader" died to the point of where no other great leader would be needed again since society would be reporgrammed.
Though that would mean killing off everyone who helped reprogram everyone... and all in all Marxs communist ideals would of been well... the worst crime ever commited in the history of mankind by an unspeakable margin... in the hopes that it would be worth it in the end.
One great final deed of evil to fix the wrongs of the world and all that. Become the devil yoruself... yadda yadda.
Been a while since i read it... but most people seem to think Marx plan was "The workers will all get fed up and yay! Everyone will agree that everyone deserves an equal amount of everything."
When it was really "the people will revolt, and the leaders should take control and sacrifice entire generations of people for the good of the world."
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I need to get around to reading that too... I'[ve been too time constrained ever since getting into college. However, one great evil to remove all future evils really is fine by me. Depending on how great the evil is, preferably it doesn't include mass massacres.
As for the American Government and Marx. The distribution of wealth in the US is even worse (fewer people holding more wealth) than what Marx speculated.
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It would have to involve mass murders. No other way for it to work out the way he plans it out.
You'd need to basically kill or segregate entire groups of older people who thought differently or threaten to kill them...
reducate the children till they all thought of communism as natural, and then kill off all the government.... then comit suicide.
Only way to make the despotisim that would reducate everyone go away into one giant brainwashing away of things such as desire.
It's not a bad read really, i had to read a bunch of marx for my psychology major.
As for what marx speculated... while wealth is more unevenly distributed... the actual living conditions are much higher then he ever thought possible.
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Huh, I had a choice to pick Marx for one of my english classes (every class had a theme they focused on). I ended up choosing zombies which turned out FAR more enlightening than I could have ever expected. Also it turned out to be the hardest of all the english classes.... I didn't know there was so much social commentary in that topic at all.
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I can imagine that a lot of Zombie movies by Romero, Fulci, Lenzi, and others (as well as some of the cannibal films from the 70's -- they were popular back then for some reason especially among Eurotrash film makers) would have a communistic bent to them because at heart they are very much about the haves (humans) and the have nots (zombies and tribal cannibals). Just see Dawn of the Dead and the last ten minutes of Day of the Dead for example.
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Actually they are almost exclusively about consumerism. Also what is consciousness and what actually defines a zombie and what is the real diference between a human and a "zombie." They had nothing to do with communism and capitalism at all.
It's absolutely fascinating and deep stuff.
