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puffy on 17 January 2009

Yes GameCube is a bad example.. You can see what I mean though..



 

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Seece on 17 January 2009
Kantor said:
jin_ivasawa said:
When PS3 was released , Xbox 360 was in 7.5 to 8 mill houses already.that means 360 had a 7.5 mill head start from the moment the PS3 got out ,that was in Nov 06 (360 sold 10,400,000 and the end of 06 ). a year and a month later ,after the 07 holidays , Xbox was 17,700,000 and the PS3 was 10 mill , Xbox 360 did better in holdays 06 cuz PS3 was new but PS3 did good in the whole 07 year with its $600 price .but for a console that should have sold 7 mills better it wasnt good Enough .

moving to 08 ,PS3 outsold xbox 360 in its early month till summer , but the economy crisis stroke and MS cut the 360s price to so called " Starting at $199 " ,that made the console a Huge boost in US and EU ,after that 360 outsold PS3 with a bigger margin , games like MGS4 or LBP or R2 did good for PS3 ( specially MGS4 ) but they werent the Console sellers that sony had hoped all this time .every single day 360 widened its gap , everyday when it weather got cold the situation got colder for PS3 .and as of Jan 09 the gap between PS3 and 360 is 8 mill according to everyone .

Xbox360 sold 28 and PS3 sold 20. these numbers mean that PS3 it back where is started , back in Nov 06 again . and were already in 09 , so even if next gen consoles come out in holidays 2012 ( 7 years after the 360 ) . PS3 needs to pull some serious strings to catch up . which i think i cant happen .

360 will obviously outsell the PS3 untill sony cuts its price which will not happen NOW atleast . till april or June whatever ( according to MR. Patcher ) 360 will widen its gap . and sony lost many of its key exclusives like FFXIII or Tekken 6 . KillZone2 will defenitly boost PS3 but it that enough? PS3 is still searching for the Halo Killer , cuz Halo 3 sold many many consoles and its the best selling Exclusive game between all the games on 360 and PS3.

some might say that God of War 3 will help , but GOW3 it not a console seller cuz none of the previous instalments were . it will sell millions, ( GOW2 sold 2 mills in US accrding to Vgchartz.com) but it wont sell many hardwere which sony needs .back in early 08 eveyone said 360 is outa steam and PS3 will contiuno to sell more but that didint happen .

If PS3 sell 2 mill consoles more than 360 in 09 ( which is a very optimistic view ) it still needs 6 mills to catch up in 2010 ! sony lost $1.1 Billion in 08 accroding to reports . and its losing money from every single PS3 . that means if sony cuts PS3's price , they gain some ground but they will loss more and more money in this bad economy !

thats what i think . all these numbers are from official reports from Sony and MS and NPD Group Salles Data and some From VGchart.com .

There that should help with readability.

Now, I have to respectfully disagree with you. If the PS3 were to outsell the 360 by 3 million this year (entirely possible), it would have 5 million to go. 3 million the year after, 3 million in 2011, and PS3 has a 1 million lead.

Of course, this will not happen with lineups and Halo killers, the PS3 needs a price cut. That is what this depends on.

You are forgetting Microsoft can and will counter Sony, they won't let them get beaten by 3 milion for the next three years, and did you pull that figure out of your ass? is 3 million significant in anyway or does it just fit your "theory"?

 

 

 



 

Kantor on 17 January 2009
seece said:
Kantor said:
jin_ivasawa said:
When PS3 was released , Xbox 360 was in 7.5 to 8 mill houses already.that means 360 had a 7.5 mill head start from the moment the PS3 got out ,that was in Nov 06 (360 sold 10,400,000 and the end of 06 ). a year and a month later ,after the 07 holidays , Xbox was 17,700,000 and the PS3 was 10 mill , Xbox 360 did better in holdays 06 cuz PS3 was new but PS3 did good in the whole 07 year with its $600 price .but for a console that should have sold 7 mills better it wasnt good Enough .

moving to 08 ,PS3 outsold xbox 360 in its early month till summer , but the economy crisis stroke and MS cut the 360s price to so called " Starting at $199 " ,that made the console a Huge boost in US and EU ,after that 360 outsold PS3 with a bigger margin , games like MGS4 or LBP or R2 did good for PS3 ( specially MGS4 ) but they werent the Console sellers that sony had hoped all this time .every single day 360 widened its gap , everyday when it weather got cold the situation got colder for PS3 .and as of Jan 09 the gap between PS3 and 360 is 8 mill according to everyone .

Xbox360 sold 28 and PS3 sold 20. these numbers mean that PS3 it back where is started , back in Nov 06 again . and were already in 09 , so even if next gen consoles come out in holidays 2012 ( 7 years after the 360 ) . PS3 needs to pull some serious strings to catch up . which i think i cant happen .

360 will obviously outsell the PS3 untill sony cuts its price which will not happen NOW atleast . till april or June whatever ( according to MR. Patcher ) 360 will widen its gap . and sony lost many of its key exclusives like FFXIII or Tekken 6 . KillZone2 will defenitly boost PS3 but it that enough? PS3 is still searching for the Halo Killer , cuz Halo 3 sold many many consoles and its the best selling Exclusive game between all the games on 360 and PS3.

some might say that God of War 3 will help , but GOW3 it not a console seller cuz none of the previous instalments were . it will sell millions, ( GOW2 sold 2 mills in US accrding to Vgchartz.com) but it wont sell many hardwere which sony needs .back in early 08 eveyone said 360 is outa steam and PS3 will contiuno to sell more but that didint happen .

If PS3 sell 2 mill consoles more than 360 in 09 ( which is a very optimistic view ) it still needs 6 mills to catch up in 2010 ! sony lost $1.1 Billion in 08 accroding to reports . and its losing money from every single PS3 . that means if sony cuts PS3's price , they gain some ground but they will loss more and more money in this bad economy !

thats what i think . all these numbers are from official reports from Sony and MS and NPD Group Salles Data and some From VGchart.com .

There that should help with readability.

Now, I have to respectfully disagree with you. If the PS3 were to outsell the 360 by 3 million this year (entirely possible), it would have 5 million to go. 3 million the year after, 3 million in 2011, and PS3 has a 1 million lead.

Of course, this will not happen with lineups and Halo killers, the PS3 needs a price cut. That is what this depends on.

You are forgetting Microsoft can and will counter Sony, they won't let them get beaten by 3 milion for the next three years, and did you pull that figure out of your ass? is 3 million significant in anyway or does it just fit your "theory"?

Well, if the price is cut in April, I don't think 14 million to 11 million is unreasonable.
What remains to be seen is whether that will happen.
OT: Why the hell can't I turn off italics?


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Cheat1011 on 17 January 2009

The 360 only sold 5,360,811 when the PS3 released. Just to let you know.



Jo21 on 17 January 2009
puffy said:
Jo21 said:
depends who leave first which is likely m$ even when ps4 show up ps3 should be selling at least 2 years more.

 

Honestly that's a stupid argument. It's the consumer that will dictate which will last longer. BTW read my last post, you may learn about a thing called MOMENTUM.

If the consumer is buying 360's and PS3's are sitting on shelves then why would Sony leave it on the market and why would Microsoft take the 360 off the market? It'd be extremely profitable by that time. 

That won't happen? It could very well happen and here you are saying Sony will have the PS3 on the market 2 years longer than the 360?

Why do you say it's likely that Microsoft would pull out first? It'd make much more sense for Sony to pull the PS3 off the market than for Microsoft. GameCube was out longer than the XBOX, did it magically eclipse its sales?

If sales are down this year then let me tell you, we've seen the PS3's peak year sadly and it's not gonna come back to life however if Sony pulls the finger out and does something then it will sell well for its life. 

Don't kid yourself though. Any 10 year plan Sony had was shredded a while ago.

 

because sony does have a strong first party and many games are still comming, especially GT5 (biggest game in europe), Trico.

microsoft depends of third party, both studios that made halo and gears are third party.

also ps3 have more price cuts comming that 360 it's more likely things will turn if it's comming late who knows.

 japan prefer ps3,  psp with only one game (monster hunter 2) made a big come back, Ps3 have ff13 and versus.

they are big chances, but that sony will take them i don't know



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colonelstubbs on 17 January 2009

Right, we get it, ps3, third, okay



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