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noname2200 on 16 January 2009
BTFeather55 said:

      Yeah, but I don't like to have to pay $50.00 to have to think for myself. And what you're saying, have you ever heard of the social psychological principle of cognitive dissonance?  It basically says that if you are compelled to do something, then you will say that you really enjoy it more because you want to have a justification for why you enjoy something other than admit the truth about it.

I see your psychobabble and return fire with my own!

Have you ever heard the term "confirmation bias"? It means you desperately seek out information that confirms what you want to believe, and ignore data that contradicts that viewpoint. See: ignoring positive reviews and praising negative reviews of a game you've never played, but really don't want to like. See also: WMDs in Iraq.

Also, you don't have to pay $50 to play. I assume you have friends and relatives, or at least a nearby Blockbusters...

 



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saicho on 16 January 2009
Khuutra said:
Lolcislaw said:
Great that they failed, their "review" had nothing to do with honest professional journalism it was like reading a 10 year old kid explaining why he does not like something , without any clear and coherent arguments just fanboy ranting, Wii Music is a fun title, but not for everyone (clearly not for a douche that reviewed it) and that's what people fail to understand.

Overall i have mixed feelings about IGN, sometimes they at least try to be unbiased, professional etc. etc. But overall i dont rate them as high as I used to.

Do you remember when they were just N64.com? Man, those were the days. Those were the days.

N64.com was awesome and Doug was a pretty cool N64 guy. Then everything changed. :(

 

 

 



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BTFeather55 on 16 January 2009
noname2200 said:
BTFeather55 said:

      Yeah, but I don't like to have to pay $50.00 to have to think for myself. And what you're saying, have you ever heard of the social psychological principle of cognitive dissonance?  It basically says that if you are compelled to do something, then you will say that you really enjoy it more because you want to have a justification for why you enjoy something other than admit the truth about it.

I see your psychobabble and return fire with my own!

Have you ever heard the term "confirmation bias"? It means you desperately seek out information that confirms what you want to believe, and ignore data that contradicts that viewpoint. See: ignoring positive reviews and praising negative reviews of a game you've never played, but really don't want to like. See also: WMDs in Iraq.

Also, you don't have to pay $50 to play. I assume you have friends and relatives, or at least a nearby Blockbusters...

 

     I don't know how much desperate searching out I had to do to find information that Wii Music is reviewed poorly.  I mean IGN is supposed to be the most popular game site on the internet, and they say it is a bad game.  However, since they are the most popular site on the net for games, then I probably didn't have to do much desperate searching to find that information.  The same with magazines like Game Informer which I can find at Wal~Mart and Eurogamer (isn't it supposed to be the most popular gaming site in Europe.)

     And this discussion just completely ignores the fact that going by my own judgement I totally disliked Wii Music when I saw its presentation at E3 when I was expecting other types of games.

 

      Friends, somewhere up North, but most of them aren't into games, they are artists, musicians, and writers that still want to live like this is the Beat era, and the nearest Blockbuster is 90 miles round trip from where I live.

 



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HappySqurriel on 16 January 2009
Phendrana said:
BTFeather55 said:
bdbdbd said:
@BTFeather: What? I thought your opinion was based on your solid gameplay experience on the game. If not, that means... ...You don't know a shit about the game. Who would've known.

 

      Even if I had a Wii, I wouldn't buy Wii Music due to its its review scores.  I don't like to spend $50.00 on something in order to have the priviledge of trying out for myself.  Only if a game is in a genre I like, and music games don't tend to be a genre that I instantly feel compelled to buy games from anyway, rarely do I buy a game that has a review score less than 9.  Exceptions are Final Fantasy Tactics IGN gave it an 8.5, Lunar:  Silver Star Story Complete on PS1 IGN gave it a 7.5 and I never had a Sega CD, so I bought it, and Fear Effect 2:  Retro Helix IGN gave it a 6.9 and I bought it used and didn't buy it based on expectations for what the gameplay experience would be but because of the character designs of Hannah and Raine.

     What do you think accounts for the fact that Nintendo fans are willing to spend $50.00 on such poorly reviewed games other than the fact that they are Nintendo fans?

 

 

Word of mouth from people with similar tastes?

An interest in music/music games?

A unique and new gameplay experience?

Coming to their own conclusions rather than being told what to like?

I can keep going if you want me to.

I thought many "Hardcore" gamers saw the value in spending the $20 a month on a rental service that let them have multiple games rented out at a time ... When I was playing more games in my free time, and could try 6 to 24 games for the cost of buying one HD game I was all over that.

 

 



noname2200 on 16 January 2009
BTFeather55 said:

      Somewhere I guess, but most of them aren't into games, and the nearest Blockbuster is 90 miles round trip from where I live.

Hmm, I guess I can see the problem there. Isn't there some sort of game-renting mail service out there? I can't remember the name of it, but it basically functions like Netflix for games. It's also fairly cheap. One of my friends uses it, and he's quite happy with the service.

Edit: Oops, you edited your original post. Will address later, after work. Must go now though.



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bdbdbd on 16 January 2009

@BTFeather: You know what the stupidity is in your "Nintendo fans" argument? Ask yourself a question why Nintendo fans are Nintendo fans. Nintendo isn't letting their fans down. It's interesting how can such thing as "Nintendo fan" exist, if they put out shit that doesn't deliver and shovelware. Nintendo fans are Nintendo fans because Nintendo fans like Nintendos games. There's very few games that didn't deliver.The ones that i can think at the moment are Donkey Kong 64 and Starfox Command.

I haven't been interested in music games either (although i bought Donkey Konga for getting it cheap), but Wii Music is the first i'm genuenily interested in for it being different. Planning to get Korg DS10, although that's not a game but more like a professional software.

Anyway, Wii Music is just about as badly rated game as Wii Sports, Wii Play and Wii Fit (and Mario Kart Wii if i recall), which means in practise, that you just can't trust the review scores.

I've quit caring about review scores a decade ago and if the current trend continues, we'll have shitload of gamers who never will care about them.
How i choose a game is, that when i see a game that could interest me, i find out about the game. Wii Music went to "must buy", Redsteel went from "must buy" to "stay away" after finding out, didn't buy it even for 19,90€, which was the cheapest i saw the game being sold.

@Patjuan: Guess who advertises a lot on IGN? It's better not go against EA, if you want them to keep paying for the ads.



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PhalanxCO on 16 January 2009
Phendrana said:
Thanks, IGN, for telling me not to buy a game I like. You're a shining example of journalistic professionalism.

And thanks, people in this thread who've never played the game, for pointing out that I only like it because I'm a delusional fanboy. I trust you guys are so hardcore you know it sucks just by looking at it. I hope one day I'm hardcore enough to judge games based only off my hardcoreness, and also to look down on people who have different tastes. One can dream....

I'm glad I've finally been shown the light. I'm burning my copy of Wii Music and buying 15 FPS's to make up for it. All my friends who enjoy Wii Music will be sad, but they're just idiot casuals anyways.

 

This reminds me of a conversation overheard playing TF2...

Player 1: I'm so hardcore, I masturbate with sandpaper!

Player 2: Pfft, that's nothing.  I'm so hardcore, I just bang my junk between two rocks!

 

Personally, I think the concept of Wii Music is interesting, but I have the musical talent of boiled cabbage.  However, my wife plays piano and both my kids seem to have an interest and/or aptitude for music, so I may get it at some point.  I'll probably try it (and suck, no doubt), but I'm certain that I will enjoy it.  I guess that means I can't be hardcore. :(  Though apparently, I gave up my right as a hardcore gamer as soon as I bought a Wii.



bdbdbd on 16 January 2009

@Phalanx: Shame on you. You'll propably suck. I do and judging by your description, we share the same level of talent, but, the game is really fun to play.



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dib8rman on 16 January 2009

I like Wii Music, my only beef is no multiplayer online V_V, doing edits is not enough.



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sethnintendo on 16 January 2009

@bdbdbd you are right pretty soon most people won't give a shit about review scores. They used to semi matter to me but it never stopped me from buying a 3 or 4 out of 5 game if I really was interested in it. Pretty much I just read what they have to say about the game and just skip the score. No one really cares about regular video game magazines anymore and I think in a few years all of them will be gone except maybe 1 or two. EGM, Gamepro, and Game Informer all suck. If only Next Generation magazine was still around..... That was probably the best video game magazine ever besides Nintendo Power.

 

I just found out Next Generation is still around online and is now http://www.edge-online.com/