Wii is the same hardware as gamecube, just added with motion sensor AND better online capabilities. So no, Xbox IS strogner then wii.

look at the top selling wii games: wii sport, wii plai, wii fit and soon wii sport resort those are far from being graphical powerhouse and they are made by nintendo so I blame nintendo for devs lazyness

Actually that's not entirely true... the Wii is actually 2 Gamecubes duct-taped together!

Sorry, I couldn't resist 

My thoughts exactly... Nintendo set the precident of releasing "mini-game" collections that skimped on the presentation with Wii Sports and Wii Play, and some of their biggest franchises continued that with games like Mario Pary 8 and Sega's effort with Mario & Sonic Olympics.

So 3rd parties took note, and that's why titles like Carnival Games and Rayman Raving Rabbids etc. have sold really well, and that's the reason why you see the Wii software market flooded with originial titles like "Game Party"... took a real rocket scientist to come up with that one... probably the same guy that came up with the names for "Adventure", "Baseball", and "Combat" on the Atari 2600 lol!

I'm glad that you agree with me

no it is not the same hardware as the game cube...that is 100% a fact...!

please stop spreading false statements

Copper 729 Mhz > Aluminum 733 Mhz

Just in case someone didn't get you were joking and took your post at face value.

Couldn't be arsed to read through all these pages but in terms of eye candy Gladiator AD is looking pretty tasty. The updated Quantum3 engine now uses an impostor instancing technique that allows it to generate hundreds or even thousands of models without a drop in framerate. This'll allow for the great looking visuals in the trailer combined with a shedload of AI sensitive models that'll react differently depending on how the fight goes on.

Puts Konami's crowd efforts in Pro Evo to shame as well as Capcom's Dead Rising.

And the technique will also be used for The Grinder, as it stands with a year to eighteen months worth of dev time left they have up to 65 enemies on screen, it wouldn't surprise me if they break the century, and as well as the impostor instancing technique and the effects listed below it'll also have destructible environments.

The Conduit also displays some impressive graphic effects including bump, gloss and diffuse mapping, advanced particle effects, HDR lighting effects, real-time reflection and refraction and focus blur. All effects that you'd associate with the PS360 and wouldn't expect on the inferior graphical horsepower of the Wii. The only thing that let it down visually was the bland art style.

There are also the likes of Red Steel 2, Silent Hill Shattered Memories and Cursed Mountain to come which also look impressive.

So how would a CPU with an identical clock rate have higher switching speed using copper?

Copper is a far better conductor of electricity than aluminum so you get more operations per single clock.