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leo-j on 15 August 2007

Just a heads up:

Everything is incorrect for all systems in sales just checked this weeks numbers

Last week Sales this week CORRECT Numbers for this week

PS3-4.11m 94,431 4.20m

Wii-10.10m 249,225 10.35m

360-10.32m 80,480 10.40m

So they are incorrect, add it up yourself with vg numbers.



 

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your mother on 15 August 2007

leo-j, you are wasting your time here.

You should go and start

"LEO-J CHARTZ

The only accurate videogame charts in the world - according to myself, that is!"

Then we can have a VGC, NGW and LJC ménage à trois!

Console wars, who needs 'em when we can have three sites battling each other! 



your mother on 15 August 2007
ioi said:
Sorry stof, I have unbanned on this one occasion - only out of curiosity to see if "she" tried to reply with an interesting post. With this and the recent delay of NPD figures "with good reason" I'm interested to see what is going on.

Is this the same reason you still allow Gballzack to run rampant in the forum and breaking those useless rules that've been set up?



marc on 15 August 2007

Desroko said:
ioi said:
Anyway, what exactly is a Wharton MBA? (Excuse my ignorance being british)


Wharton is a prestigious business school. The alumni say it's the most prestigious. A Wharton (or other Ivy League) education is a useful tool when you've said something flat-out wrong or ridiculous, because then you can just wave it in the air and brush aside criticism, like Oxford and Cambridge grads do in your country.

 

The only problem is that anyone with a brain knows that prestigious schools give about the same education as any other legit school out there. Their only real difference is the environment and the people (connections) you meet there (rich people with rich parents) opening avenues for better jobs that are not available to folks like me who went to a not so prestigious school like UCSD. Ivy league schools haven’t provided a "better" education in nearly half a century now. There is no difference between the guy with a Physics degree from Harvard or one from a low rank school like SDSU. So to Jasmine if he/she is still around, waving that flag just shows how un-educated you really are. Besides a business degree is hardly prestigious no matter where it came from (no offense to all you business majors out there).

Anyway, I think its well established that NGW numbers are all guesses. I seriously doubt that they have the technology there to track sales every 3 seconds. The cost for something like that would be enormous since you would need to interface directly with every retailer or be on the phones 24-7. It is also well established that VGCharts and NPD are both not 100% accurate nor is there a "source" for 100% accurate numbers anywhere. All we know is that they each keep decently believable numbers and that VGCharts backs their numbers up in many ways. NPD on the other hand doesn't give us much to work with aside from their final numbers as far as I know.

 



dtewi on 15 August 2007

I don't know who I should trust.

A 14 year old who is able to do basic math.
Or a trained person in this field of video games and knows all of the video games sales.

Tough decision.



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stof on 15 August 2007
your mother said:
ioi said:
Sorry stof, I have unbanned on this one occasion - only out of curiosity to see if "she" tried to reply with an interesting post. With this and the recent delay of NPD figures "with good reason" I'm interested to see what is going on.

Is this the same reason you still allow Gballzack to run rampant in the forum and breaking those useless rules that've been set up?


That doesn't make any sense. Gballzack was banned a while ago. And don't say that it's because we're not banning his/her new accounts, because you have no way of telling if thats the case.



I'm a mod, come to me if there's mod'n to do. 

Chrizum is the best thing to happen to the internet, Period.

Serves me right for challenging his sales predictions!

Bet with dsisister44: Red Steel 2 will sell 1 million within it's first 365 days of sales.

your mother on 15 August 2007
stof said:
your mother said:
ioi said:
Sorry stof, I have unbanned on this one occasion - only out of curiosity to see if "she" tried to reply with an interesting post. With this and the recent delay of NPD figures "with good reason" I'm interested to see what is going on.

Is this the same reason you still allow Gballzack to run rampant in the forum and breaking those useless rules that've been set up?


That doesn't make any sense. Gballzack was banned a while ago. And don't say that it's because we're not banning his/her new accounts, because you have no way of telling if thats the case.


I can say so because Gballzack has been back for about two weeks yet nothing has been done about it.  And I can also say it makes perfect sense.



marc on 15 August 2007
Lingyis said:
Delusional said:
 

You're right that you can't time the events nor can you predict how long it takes to respond/recover. But if certain events do happen, since markets are usually efficient (strong, semi-strong, and weak), it's hard for one to consistently earn money (to short it if it crashes). They may earn it couple times using analysis tools and with luck, but there's no way to earn money every single time. But if we know normally what trigger things, even if you do not make instant money out of it, you can statistically analyze whether you should worry about it if you plan to invest <1 year, 5 years, 10 years. The benefit I see is to give you a better position than other investors who do not have that information. It can't guarantee you will earn lots with that info, but for sure, you should be able to invest in a better performing portfolio with less risk (beta) than the rest of the market, which is filled with casual investors as well. That's how I would answer it.


yeah, i see your logic. ultimately, a lot of time it's the traders that make the call if certain events are "triggers" and to either identify or anticipate them and it gives them another weapon in their arsenal.


This is a case of a statistic with very low power. Many engineers (especially chemical/bio-engineers) will tell you that no statistic is meaningful if it is not followed by its power calculation. Unfortunately... many statisticians don’t even know what "power calculations" are... and certainly none of those stock calculator/predictors will ever even mention them to you.

Lingyis on 15 August 2007
marc said:
 

This is a case of a statistic with very low power. Many engineers (especially chemical/bio-engineers) will tell you that no statistic is meaningful if it is not followed by its power calculation. Unfortunately... many statisticians don’t even know what "power calculations" are... and certainly none of those stock calculator/predictors will ever even mention them to you.

a) stock prices (or social sciences in general) aren't repeatable experiments.  it's a reasonable critique, but a non-constructive one.  plus, there are plenty of things to do even with one set of data--situations do present them over and over again, from months (or years in the above example) down to on the order of seconds.  that's how many quantitative-strategy based hedge funds make their living.

b) sure statisticians know that.  it's just that it's usually under a different name than "power calculation".

hmm, i wonder if people still use stock calculators.



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jagui on 16 August 2007

The truth about nextgenwars.

Bwahaha

NGW credibility: 0% 

Vgchartz credibility: 90% (personal opinion)

NPD credibility: 100%



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