Willem said:
Well .. I didn't mean it that serious ;)
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Nah its my fought I took it like you were serious..but its cool man.![]()
Willem said:
Well .. I didn't mean it that serious ;)
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Nah its my fought I took it like you were serious..but its cool man.![]()
| Takashii said: I was thinking about this when I was posting a message on a thread talking about "If Nintendo wins this gen.." I currently don't see Sony pulling the plug on the PS3 or PSP just for the simple fact, they aren't going to want to follow in the footsteps of Sega and they have the best hardware out for each market (handheld and console market)I mean with sales looking the way they look, is it possible, People say the PSP was a failure, but when you look at the market share Sony PSP took a chunk of the market from Nintendo worldwide (not in Japan). PS3 is slow starting off considering its price and its only 1 year in its lifetime. What do you guys think about it? Why all the Sony PS3 and PSP hate?? Did Sony do something wrong? Does everyone won't Sony to leave the console market all together?? Whats the problem?
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Sony won't pull the plug. I won't say NEVER, but it is 99.9% never gonna happen ![]()
They are in fact still one of the biggest companies in the world and will ride this out until the end. I truly believe they could have terrible sales at gamecube levels this gen and it would still be okay in the long run. They will adapt.
To answer your other question...Did Sony Do something Wrong?
YES. You could start a whole topic on that by itself.
In the end, there will be a PS4, and a PSP2. And so on. Sony is one of the most suyccessful brand names in consumer history. Their reputation may not always be pristine, but they have a lot of history on their side of great business models. It was a bit fudged up this time around, and 1996-2005 Nintendoesque.
If the Wii didn't succeed as it has, you could be pretty sure, Nintendo would be out of the HOME hardware market, And you might have seen Mario and Zelda on the PS4. But now that they are creaming everything in sight, soI guess that won't happen either
Predictions For Last Full Week of Sales in 2010)
WII - 80.35 Million
360 - 43.88 Million
PS3 - 41.40 Million
More terrible predictions coming Jan. 2011!!!
Thrillhouse said:
Sony won't pull the plug. I won't say NEVER, but it is 99.9% never gonna happen They are in fact still one of the biggest companies in the world and will ride this out until the end. I truly believe they could have terrible sales at gamecube levels this gen and it would still be okay in the long run. They will adapt. To answer your other question...Did Sony Do something Wrong? YES. You could start a whole topic on that by itself. In the end, there will be a PS4, and a PSP2. And so on. Sony is one of the most suyccessful brand names in consumer history. Their reputation may not always be pristine, but they have a lot of history on their side of great business models. It was a bit fudged up this time around, and 1996-2005 Nintendoesque. If the Wii didn't succeed as it has, you could be pretty sure, Nintendo would be out of the HOME hardware market, And you might have seen Mario and Zelda on the PS4. But now that they are creaming everything in sight, soI guess that won't happen either
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I totally agree with you Thrillhouse, but what if the PS3 was at the price like the Xbox 360? This would of been the most competetive generations ever. But like I said price is whats holding Sony back on the PS3.
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No end is sight, opinion as fact nice.
The swich to 65 nanometer technology will bring the PS3 out of the red, Ibm has been developing 65 nano Cell chips for a few months now. Sony them selfs said the PS3 will be out of the red once 65 nano Cell and Rsx chips are used. SCE will be profitable due to PS2 and PSP when PS3 is around the point of breaking even..
Takashii, here is a condensed listing of Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo's financial reports for their gaming divisions over the last three years:
http://forum.pcvsconsole.com/viewthread.php?tid=11760&page=10
And here is their uncondensed annual reports for the last decade:
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/kessan/english.html
http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/index.html
http://www.microsoft.com/msft/default.mspx
It's a lot of information, but the salient points (pertaining to my previous posts) are these:
Last ~2 years of fiscal results in the Video Game market
Microsoft: approximatley 2.7 billion dollars in losses (including Warranty extension)
Sony: approximately 2.2 Billion Dollars in losses
Nintendo: approximately 2.5 Billion dollars in profits
There's a near-5 billion dollar swing in Nintendo's favor over the last two years, and that disparity is likely to continue to widen.
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| rockstarjerry981 said: No. |
LOL a fake gamer or a Wii gamer comes in a Sony question (which I should of posted in the Sony Discussion Forum) and of course says "No" with no relative explanantion..now thats funny.
Hus said:
No end is sight, opinion as fact nice. The swich to 65 nanometer technology will bring the PS3 out of the red, Ibm has been developing 65 nano Cell chips for a few months now. Sony them selfs said the PS3 will be out of the red once 65 nano Cell and Rsx chips are used. SCE will be profitable due to PS2 and PSP when PS3 is around the point of breaking even.. |
You really need to do research.
http://forum.pcvsconsole.com/viewthread.php?tid=11760&page=10
As you can see, Sony lost more money last quarter (300 million) than they did in the same quarter last year (270 million). Their losses have increased, and this is before the recent price cut took effect. The price cut has already cost Sony:
http://vgchartz.com/aweekly.php
Given that the price cut took effect July 9th, Sony has already seen additional losses of ~18 million dollars, and those losses will continue to increase as more PS3s are sold within this new-price window. This does not even include the additional losses inherent in the European bundles, which are difficult to calculate (And are definitely lower than 100 dollars, of course).
Honestly, Hus, please don't mock people when they have done research and you haven't. It's quite embarrasing. Just for completeness' sake, even though I've already posted all of this, here is a link to the quarterly fiscal reports of all three companies:
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/kessan/english.html
http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/index.html
http://www.microsoft.com/msft/default.mspx
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Hus said:
No end is sight, opinion as fact nice. The swich to 65 nanometer technology will bring the PS3 out of the red, Ibm has been developing 65 nano Cell chips for a few months now. Sony them selfs said the PS3 will be out of the red once 65 nano Cell and Rsx chips are used. SCE will be profitable due to PS2 and PSP when PS3 is around the point of breaking even.. |
And Hus I can't wait till SCE makes their profit..and I never knew they were doing that, thanks for the info Hus.