I'm going with leo-j on this one, the wii has won nothging so far, just wait until PS2 owners make the switch to PS3. And maybe with wii2 Nintendo might catch up to Xbox live as it was in 2002.

So you expect PS2 owners who probably spent $150 to $200 buying the PS2 to jump on board with the PS3 at $300 to $500? Um ... yeah

The price range the vast majority of people buy gaming consoles at is $100 to $200 and the PS3 will not be in this price range until late 2009 or 2010 at the earliest; developers will be moderately patient but will soon be at the point where they will no longer be focusing much of their attention to the PS3. The end result is that Sony will have a system which needs 12 to 18 games at the level of Metal Gear Solid or Final Fantasy in a year in order to catch up to the Wii and will only have 4 to 6 of these games.

We certainly haven't seen "Check Mate" yet, but every move Nintendo puts Sony into "Check" and Sony is just surviving at this point in time.

the good part is that the PS4 will have basically the same archtexture as the PS3 which will help devs learn the system faster.

If they were to move the ff series to wii (the main series) ......

Just know you might find some dead people at SE ^.^

I think it will be called Wiii.... hehe.....

Talking about Wii2, PS4, and Xbox3 is like talking about aliens. I think aliens are more interesting. Anyway.... thru the lesson learn in this gen, mabbe MS will repackage their Xbox as Xee and sell it at $39.99 + 1 free game, Sony will repackage their PSOne as Pee and sell it at $49.95 + 2 free games, and Nintendo repackage their NES as Nee and sell it for $19.99 with 1 free catridge(70games in 1). hmm.. Nintendo might be the winner still. lol!

@HappySqurriel, i don't think it matters how Sony wins this gen or when they win this gen but it will happen. I know lots of people that will buy the wii just to go with their main system the 360 or PS3. The PS3 is a media powerhouse that has unlimited potential.

The wii is still not going to get third party support like the PS1 or PS2 did, they have a limited market of people that are willing to buy third party games, ask anyone who buys a wii what they are going to buy and it will be wii sports, wii play, and anything with Mario and anything else Nintendo puts out, and whatever smal party games come out. Third parties know this, and this is why the main series of games will always be on 360/PS3. The main FF series will never go to the wii, the same with all the other games.

I like that too very nice.

Another point those that think PS4 will be blueray still are probably kidding themself. Theres a great chance it be a new format.

PS1: CD

PS2: DVD

PS3: Blue-Ray

etc...

but who knows but if 2012 is the next release of consoles or later then most liekly a new format will come.

What are the chances PS4 will have MOST games on 'The Store' but also have disc versions like Warhawk and LBP are going to be.

I'm sorry, that's absoluetly false ...

Wii gamers are no different than every other gamer and are looking forward to GOOD games; first/third party really doesn't matter. The third party line-up on the Wii is remarkably weak because they did not anticipate the success of the Wii and it is taking time to correct that mistake, and yet the Wii has sold far more third party software than the PS3; the PS3 doesn't even have a single third party million seller, and I don't think there are any games that have broken 500,000 copies sold yet. Inexpensive, shitty games a selling better on the Wii than expensive high quality games are selling on the PS3.

Third party support is already starting to flee the PS3 and over the next 12 months it is going to become obvious that the combination of High Development costs and a Small Userbase will devistate corporate interest in the platform. When Boards are doing long term planning and board meetings they're going to look at how most third party PS3 games spent $20 Million+ in development and have sold less than 250,000 copies (which probably means they lost money) while Wii games cost $5 to $10 Million and sold 250,000 to 750,000 copies (which probably means they made a healthy profit).

The reason there has never been a major momentium shift half way through a generation is because after a console demonstrates that it is not profitable enough third parties flee it and do not return.

The Wii2 will probably be more powerful with the technology in the Wiimote more enhanced.

The PS4 will basically be the same as the PS3 with an improved online service, lower price, and hardware that's sold at a profit from day one. Perhaps they'll make some improvements to the Sixaxis so that its motion-sensing is better, maybe even put some kind of laser/target/trigger pointer on it for some of the games, but it will still look the same and have analog sticks, button, and d-pad.

Due to the billions of dollars lost and the fact that the 360 is only popular in one territory on top of the fact that it will probably be in third place by the end of the generation, I honestly don't think that MS will be back a third time. Investors and shareholders are probably ready to explode at all of the red ink and will probably cut life support when it ends up having sold at the same rate as the original Xbox while not having brought anything new to the market(other than Xbox Live, which won't have the same advantages next gen) or having expanded upon anything that was already there.