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If the wii wins this gen then good for nintendo.

edit:Sorry if I was trolling I wont do it again peace..



 

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I don't suppose this thread was inspired by my post in this thread?  ;)

 



I think it is hard to make comparisons because what happened in each of the generations was really different.

PS1/N64/Saturn generation:

Sega was just, I don't know sticking their head up their ass or something (possibly a little like Sony if you want to make comparisons), but Sony at this point has way more of a foothold then Sega ever did as well as an entire media company to support them.

Nintendo alienated third parties with cartridges, which made ports significantly more difficult and FMV's almost impossible. Use of CD's in PS1 enticed companies (including Square) who wanted to release on PC as well. Sony was willing to invest a lot of money to get into the market too (kind of like Microsoft now). Being a Japanese company helped them too (unlike Microsoft).

PS2/Xbox/Gamecube/~Dreamcast generation:

Sega dies.

Nintendo simply could not get together any third-party momentum. At least they changed over to discs.

Microsoft had their shit somewhat together, but it was their first console, and it was released late in the cycle. They came in a respectable second, and were able to carve a niche.

Sony simply had all the cards stacked in their favor, and there wasn't much anyone could do.

This generation in comparison:

Nintendo and third-parties have better, but not the best, third-party relations. The Wii's hardware is too discrepant from the 360/PS3 to do proper ports as well. Nevertheless, the Wii has a lot of momentum. It could increase, it could taper off, simply depends on what happens in the future.

Microsoft has good momentum cause of early start and is easy to develop for. Bad hardware and a lot of other things have made them fall behind the Wii though.

Sony has had a lot of things going wrong with the PS3, but they are getting their shit together. Unlikely at this point that it will pass the Wii, but it is probable that it will pass the 360 cause of EU and Japan.

I predict that things will be split more evenly than the previous generation, something like 45/30/25 when all is said and done.



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it has no chance to win they have not sold a non handheld over45k since the snes



sorry meant 45 million lol



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There's little doubt for most that the Wii will dominate this generation, the real question is where does Nintendo take it from there. Do they continue on or do they squander it.



“The Hardcore of the Peach is its pits. Try to get the whole fruit!”

- John Lucas

 

“Every industry is filled with the grave stones of companies who kept doing the same thing.”

- Reggie Fils-Aime

 

“You don’t play Graphics, you look at them.”

- Unknown

 

“Casual Gaming = Anything that’s not an FPS”

- Sony Fandom

What usually happens is that the sales leader gets all the games (except for special deals and 1st party games from other companies). Then, on the next-gen, they get a head start boost of name recognition and developer confidence. What happens then is unknown. 



Soriku said:
KBG29 said:
I don't care if Nintendo wins this round or not. What I do care about is that they take all their earnings from this gen and make a system that really pushes the boundries of what is capable in computing. The only problem I have with the Wii is all the games are only as good as PS2/Xbox games with the added bonus of motion. However motion is not the answer to all games, and when it comes to zelda, mario, smash bros, and mario kart, they just don't look to offer anything new besides the motion. I may be wrong and I hope Nintendo can prove me so. Until then I look at the Wii as hopfully a way for them to make money to really make a great product next gen.

 

And HD graphics makes it 'much' better? Heck, last gen and before that Nintendo enforced good graphics and Sony low graphics and look where N and S went? Now N is doing less graphics and S high and look where they both are now.

 The differences between GC, PS2, Xbox were not that high like comparing the Wii visuals and the X360, PS3 visuals.






konnichiwa said:

 The differences between GC, PS2, Xbox were not that high like comparing the Wii visuals and the X360, PS3 visuals.

Then why is the Wii selling so much better than its graphically superior big brothers? Price? If it was Price wouldn't the GC have sold the best last generation? I'm curious to hear your thoughts on the matter are.


 



“The Hardcore of the Peach is its pits. Try to get the whole fruit!”

- John Lucas

 

“Every industry is filled with the grave stones of companies who kept doing the same thing.”

- Reggie Fils-Aime

 

“You don’t play Graphics, you look at them.”

- Unknown

 

“Casual Gaming = Anything that’s not an FPS”

- Sony Fandom

I have yet to see 3rd parties commiting their "big games" to the Wii....I think 2008 will be really telling when it comes to what kind of games 3rd parties have in store for the system.