OK Im out! Dont want to argue anymore. im making a sensible discussion here but since most of you are just bashing Im leaving this thread...

ps3 is selling fine, even with high price.

The PS2 didn't launch to a 100 Million unit lead, sales for the Gamecube/XBox weren't awful out of the gate, and third party publishers didn't always avoid producing games for these platforms. The PS2 had somewhat stable high sales throughout the entire generation, and the other consoles had less reliable and declining sales; the growing userbase lead of the PS2 ensured that it would get the lion share of third party support.

Now, claiming that third party publishers hate the Wii demonstrates your personal bias more than anything else ...

Whether it was appropriate or not, most third party publishers took sales predictions from analysts (or created their own) and since their models were poor and couldn't handle a $600 system or a revolutionary change in people's desires they heavily favoured the HD consoles. After the generation began turning out differently than they expected they started changing direction, and since the release of the Wii there has been a steady increase in the quantity and quality of games released ... Although the Wii will (probably) never be remembered for having the greatest third party library, over the next 4 years of its life the Wii will (probably) have such a steady release of quality titles released that it will become useless to complain about it.

At the same time there are still risks for third party support for the PS3 and XBox 360 ... Most bigger PC games that are being released now require a system (roughly) as powerful as the HD consoles to play (on minimum detail settings, at a low resolution, with a low and unsteady framerate); in 2010 and beyond, as developers expect gamers to own PCs with Geforce 9 or better (to play on minimum detail settings, at a low resolution, with a low and unsteady framerate) there is nothing saying that they would continue to support the HD consoles.

The Game Cube saw horrible 3rd party support but i enjoyed Nintendo's first party games so does it matter that it had horrible market share or 3rd party support? As long as I enjoy the games that i do know are coming it should be A-OK. Though the GC was my secondary system I know plenty of people who had it as their primary and still think it was the greatest thing since sliced bread.

The PS3 is the GC this gen. Big whoop as long as Sony continues to bring out the gems. Stop being fanboys and just enjoy the games.

This.  Gamers should get what suits their desires better.  If you think PS3 or 360 had a massively superior line-up for 2008 over the other, then you are probably a fanboy.

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That chart has been done to death, when you allign launches in each region you will see the truth.

Blah. PS3 is just fine. It will be getting a lot of 3rd part games, even if they are multiplat with 360.

Well, not really. Last year it sold better and the price was higher in some regions. Overall sales of the PS3 is down this year compared to last year, while overall sales of the Wii and XBox 360 are up by 10-25%. So, no it's not selling well for it's price. It's actually selling worse this year, then last year. That's not a good thing. Obviously a price drop is a must, but Sony already said no price drop in 2008 and no price drop in 2009 until maybe Summer or Fall. So for the first 6 months of 2009 both the Wii and the XBox 360 will be selling fairly well because of the cheap price. Meanwhile the PS3 will struggle and probably have decent surge when popular titles get released (White Knight Chronicles, God of War 3, InFamous, GT5 & FF XIII).

I don't see the PS3 hitting 30 million at the end of next year unless it gets a $100 price drop in the summer. Most likely it'll hit 28mil by the end of 2009. Because of the Xbox 360's price cut, it could easily sell about 10mil + in 2009. Pushing it's total to 37+ million by the end of 2009. If the Wii keeps up it's pace it'll be at 67 million by the end of next year. Sony and Microsoft will never catch them if that happens. If Microsoft beats the PS3 in another holiday, it will be tough for the PS3 to catch them. It's all about the games though. If Microsoft can acquire some more exclusive hits like Gears of War and FF XIII, their console will continue to sell like hotcakes.

I appreciated your constructive discussion, thanks for your time.