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Capulous on 26 December 2008

How many companies have contracts and how long are they for? What exactly do these contracts say and what are the escape clauses written into them?

I am looking at the big picture; hence the statement "if all the costs of the new format is still less than what blu-ray cost, I cannot see why a company would remain with blu-ray." Companies are looking to save money, especially in the current economy; why would companies remain with blu-ray if the overall cost of the new format is less?

Sony pictures and their supporters? Well, Sony supported betamax look what happened to that.



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DirtyP2002 on 26 December 2008
RPG said:
Digital Distribution will never overtake disc format, look how big music downloads have become yet people still buy music discs. Gamestop, Game, huge supermarkets etc would also lose huge sums of money so no matter how anyone looks at it, people will still always prefer the hard copy.

The day a company goes digital distribution only will be the same day they die. Also what about connection speeds? I cant keep count with the number of people who only have a certain bandwidth and can only download so much in a month.

NA, Asia and Japan need to get superfast internet speeds and that too the majority of people, then someone can say with a straight face that DD can match a hard copy.

 

 Guess who became the biggest retailer of music worldwide? iTunes. There are labels out there that earn more money with downloads than with CDs. And of course, this trend will continue.



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Deneidez on 27 December 2008

If they do it right and is cheap, that new format could make excellent storage medium for pc. Its not always all about Hollywood movies. There was another format, which has been used for Bollywood movies. Dunno what happened it afterwards.



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Bboid on 27 December 2008
Deneidez said:
If they do it right and is cheap, that new format could make excellent storage medium for pc. Its not always all about Hollywood movies. There was another format, which has been used for Bollywood movies. Dunno what happened it afterwards.

 

 

There are actually way more formats out there that people don't have a clue about. It's all about which ones bought big name endorsements and created fictitious councils to govern their own material. Despite that, I'm still relatively pleased with how blu-ray fits my needs.  But there really are a number of good formats out there that go unseen.



Kantor on 27 December 2008
DirtyP2002 said:
RPG said:
Digital Distribution will never overtake disc format, look how big music downloads have become yet people still buy music discs. Gamestop, Game, huge supermarkets etc would also lose huge sums of money so no matter how anyone looks at it, people will still always prefer the hard copy.

The day a company goes digital distribution only will be the same day they die. Also what about connection speeds? I cant keep count with the number of people who only have a certain bandwidth and can only download so much in a month.

NA, Asia and Japan need to get superfast internet speeds and that too the majority of people, then someone can say with a straight face that DD can match a hard copy.

 

 Guess who became the biggest retailer of music worldwide? iTunes. There are labels out there that earn more money with downloads than with CDs. And of course, this trend will continue.

Average music file = 40 MB?

Average game file = 10 GB

 



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arsenicazure on 27 December 2008

Japan and south korea already have amazingly fast and high broadband penetration-- you can find 1Gbps lines in japan for under 60 bucks:>

http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/09/27/1757211&from=rss

Thats around 100MB/sec which means a 10Gb game should take approx 3-5 mins tops to download.



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Alby_da_Wolf on 27 December 2008

BD struggled to get its first achievements, being accepted by producers and users and beat its rival in the competition for new optical format, although being supported by a big consortium and being included in PS3, how can they hope to have better results with less support and when industry and contents producers, having already spent a lot to launch BD, are now eager to reap the harvest of their investments?
I smell the stink of some greedy megacorp that often showed to not accepting BD's format war victory behind this, but I won't name it explicitly until there is certainty.



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Bboid on 27 December 2008
arsenicazure said:
Japan and south korea already have amazingly fast and high broadband penetration-- you can find 1Gbps lines in japan for under 60 bucks:>

http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/09/27/1757211&from=rss

Thats around 100MB/sec which means a 10Gb game should take approx 3-5 mins tops to download.

 

 

Localized regions of geographically small countries is not a convincing argument. These countries also happen to hard the largest tech infrastructure budgets in the world since they are also home to a few of the largest tech companies in the world.  Find me cheap broadband in Swaziland.



sieanr on 27 December 2008
Bboid said:
arsenicazure said:
Japan and south korea already have amazingly fast and high broadband penetration-- you can find 1Gbps lines in japan for under 60 bucks:>

http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/09/27/1757211&from=rss

Thats around 100MB/sec which means a 10Gb game should take approx 3-5 mins tops to download.

Localized regions of geographically small countries is not a convincing argument. These countries also happen to hard the largest tech infrastructure budgets in the world since they are also home to a few of the largest tech companies in the world.  Find me cheap broadband in Swaziland.

Yeah, swaziland has seen amazing bluray sales...

The developed world is the target market for BR, which just so happens to be the same market with high speed internet.



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Untamoi on 27 December 2008
Capulous said:
How many companies have contracts and how long are they for? What exactly do these contracts say and what are the escape clauses written into them?

I am looking at the big picture; hence the statement "if all the costs of the new format is still less than what blu-ray cost, I cannot see why a company would remain with blu-ray." Companies are looking to save money, especially in the current economy; why would companies remain with blu-ray if the overall cost of the new format is less?

Sony pictures and their supporters? Well, Sony supported betamax look what happened to that.

 

They are much more interested in sales than savings. Unless movies sell about as much on new format then moving there is idiotic business move. They won't even consider publishing until there are at least 30-40 million players in homes.