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Diomedes might as well give up they are to jealous and scared of the PS3 to say it will beat the 360, if it smashed the 360 they know wii is next.

They are to blind to see that 360 is already alot cheeper has much more better gamer yet its still failing to out outsell the PS3! Japan and much of Europe just don't care about the 360! PS3 has over 100 exclusives, but they use bs little wii sites as "sources" that only say it has half of that.



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The real question that you should ask your self is why can't the Xbox360 outsell the PS2.



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well i think it is obvious why the 360 can not out sell the ps2, people are cheap. the ps2 can be bought for 99 dollars new if you know where to look, then go pick up used games. Even the new games left for it are cheaper than new 360/ps3 games. I think this has actually been one of the bigger sticking points for people, 49.99 is a barrier in America, and seeing that new games on a system are 59.99 or more, drives people away from it. I think this will continue through this christmas into next summer when perennial big names will not appear on either the xbox/ps2. Though depending on how well madden sells i could be persuaded its already become a non-issue. I think its sad, but madden is like a litmus test for the console community. I miss the espn 2k series.



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Hus said:
Diomedes might as well give up they are to jealous and scared of the PS3 to say it will beat the 360, if it smashed the 360 they know wii is next.

They are to blind to see that 360 is already alot cheeper has much more better gamer yet its still failing to out outsell the PS3! Japan and much of Europe just don't care about the 360! PS3 has over 100 exclusives, but they use bs little wii sites as "sources" that only say it has half of that.

(This is the part where I feed the troll. Sorry, mods, I'M WEAK...)

...who in their right mind is "jealous" or "scared" of one console doing better than another? Honestly, who gets that intensely obsessed with a piece of machinery to be scared? Good lord.

The thing I see a lot of (from fans of all flavors) is the argument of "It Will".

"It will sell AMAZING once these games come out!"
"It will tank once people see how lame the system is."
"It will sell better than the competition when the price drops!"

How can anyone... really say what's going to happen? No one here is psychic. No one here has a crystal ball into 2011. The only thing we can look to are numbers. That's the only ammunition we have.

The PS3 is selling poorly. The 360 is selling even worse. The Wii is selling too fast for stores to keep up.

That is what the numbers tell us. That is what the only solid, undeniable facts tell us. You cannot argue sales charts. You cannot argue the numbers.

Can the PS3 beat the 360? Absolutely.
Will it happen anytime soon? No. The amount of increase to have it happen anytime before 2009 is mindboggling. It would have to sell better than the Wii is selling at this exact moment to pull it off.

Can the PS3 beat the Wii? Absolutely.
Will it happen anytime soon? Hell no. The soonest you'd ever see a crossover is 2011. The amount of cataclysmic sales-swapping that would have to take place are nigh impossible in this torrential industry.

We can argue "It Will" all we want. But it doesn't mean a damn thing. The numbers show one thing in this argument: the PS3 needs to pick up some serious steam if it ever wants to catch up to the 360, even if the 360 sells worse than it is now.



PS3: 5.51m/51w, avg 108,039/w (up 239)
360: 12.93m/102w, avg 126,764/w (up 625), leads PS3 by 7.42m (up 70k), avg lead 18,725/w (up 386)
Wii: 13.52m/51w, avg 265,098/w (dn 1,102), leads PS3 by 8.01m (up 90k), avg lead 157,059/w (dn 1,341)

If 360 sales stabilize, PS3 sales increases needed to pass 360 by...
01/08: (008w) +875.8%, 04/08: (021w) +344.4%, 07/08: (034w) +219.3%, 10/08: (047w) +163.5%
01/09: (060w) +131.8%, 04/09: (073w) +111.4%, 07/09: (085w) +098.1%, 10/09: (099w) +086.7%
If Wii sales stabilize, PS3 sales increases needed to pass Wii by...
01/08: (008w) +1072.%, 04/08: (021w) +498.4%, 07/08: (034w) +363.4%, 10/08: (047w) +303.1%
01/09: (060w) +269.0%, 04/09: (073w) +246.9%, 07/09: (085w) +232.6%, 10/09: (099w) +220.3%
If PS2 sales freeze, Wii sales increases needed to pass PS2 (as of Mar07, 108.4m) by...
2008: (008w) +4373.8%, 2009: (060w) +0496.5%, 2010: (112w) +0219.6%, 2011: (165w) +0116.9%
2012: (217w) +0064.9%, 2013: (269w) +0033.1%, 2014: (321w) +0011.5%, 2015: (376w) -0004.8%
At +0% it will pass it in 358w, the week ending September 19th, 2014, at an age of 409w (7y44w).
Current age of PS2: 7y37w.

Last update: Week ending November 3, 2007

I'd say, yes, but not by much. What we're looking at right now is the Wii as the clear winner, and the two HD systems duking it out for second. Right now, the 360 suffers the problem of a lack of good exclusives. Most of its good titles are either cross-platform with the PC and/or the PS3, or slated to come out on either in the forseeable future. Say what you will about the PS3, at least it has exclusives to distinguish it from the competition, and I think those will carry it to a second-place finish.



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leo-j said:
dtewi said:
But what makes you think everyone wants one? Nintendo dropped the price of the Gamecube low yet no one wanted one, what makes you think the PS3 is the opposite.

Because it is a playstation system, ps2 did well because ps1 did well history repeats its self, wat if the wii stops selling? Wat if the 360 burns microsoft corp down? Wat if sony was destroyed by a meteor? What if etc..

 


What if it was raining hot blondes in bikinis? 

Nintendo had 2 successful console systems, then started to fall apart. History repeats itself....



Bonafide732 said:
ps3 doesnt stand a chance to pass the 360 this year.. maybe a year from now.. since GTA will sell more ps3's next year instead of 360's

Please justify this statement. The 360 is offering exclusives context for GTA4, and the console will still cost substantially less. Why would a GTAfan choose the PS3?



misterd said:
Bonafide732 said:
ps3 doesnt stand a chance to pass the 360 this year.. maybe a year from now.. since GTA will sell more ps3's next year instead of 360's

Please justify this statement. The 360 is offering exclusives context for GTA4, and the console will still cost substantially less. Why would a GTAfan choose the PS3?


 Has MS advertised GTAContent?No and would have started before it was announced to have delay till next year honestly MS wont advertise the hell out of the DLC they might advertise it but it wont make a difference unless they put it on billboards and EVERY gaming store in NA and Europe.Ask a person who plays games but doesnt follow the industry like most of us here do and very few wont know about the DLC.

GTAIV will sell more PS3 because if they walk into a store and see MGS4 and GTAIV on the shelf for PS3 and GTAIV for X360 they will see 2 MASSIVE franshises on the PS3 and 1 on the X360 so this might sway them to which version they will get.I am not putting Halo3 there because if they wanted a X360 and that game because its been hyped to the extreme they will get one THIS year not NEXT.



End of 2014 Hardware Predictions (03/03/14)

PlayStation 4: 12-15million

Xbox One: 7-10 million

Wii U: 8-9 million (Changed 01/04/2014 from 7-9 --> 8-9 million)

mitsuhide said:
misterd said:
Bonafide732 said:
ps3 doesnt stand a chance to pass the 360 this year.. maybe a year from now.. since GTA will sell more ps3's next year instead of 360's

Please justify this statement. The 360 is offering exclusives context for GTA4, and the console will still cost substantially less. Why would a GTAfan choose the PS3?

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GTAIV will sell more PS3 because if they walk into a store and see MGS4 and GTAIV on the shelf for PS3 and GTAIV for X360 they will see 2 MASSIVE franshises on the PS3 and 1 on the X360 so this might sway them to which version they will get.I am not putting Halo3 there because if they wanted a X360 and that game because its been hyped to the extreme they will get one THIS year not NEXT.

 

I do not understand this logic.

 



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friedtofu said:
mitsuhide said:
misterd said:
Bonafide732 said:
ps3 doesnt stand a chance to pass the 360 this year.. maybe a year from now.. since GTA will sell more ps3's next year instead of 360's

Please justify this statement. The 360 is offering exclusives context for GTA4, and the console will still cost substantially less. Why would a GTAfan choose the PS3?


GTAIV will sell more PS3 because if they walk into a store and see MGS4 and GTAIV on the shelf for PS3 and GTAIV for X360 they will see 2 MASSIVE franshises on the PS3 and 1 on the X360 so this might sway them to which version they will get.I am not putting Halo3 there because if they wanted a X360 and that game because its been hyped to the extreme they will get one THIS year not NEXT.

 

I do not understand this logic.

 


 2 AAA titles win over 1 AAA title both releasing in the same time period.



End of 2014 Hardware Predictions (03/03/14)

PlayStation 4: 12-15million

Xbox One: 7-10 million

Wii U: 8-9 million (Changed 01/04/2014 from 7-9 --> 8-9 million)