Impulsivity said:
Imthelegend said:
Impulsivity said: It will be obsolete long before it gets anywhere near 200 million. If it hits 100 million before the Wii HD (or whatever its called) is released I'd be very surprised. |
Why do people think a HD Wii will be released. The only reason they would even do that is if they were struggling to sell consoles. Can you say that will happen in the next 2-3 years? People have spoken and they do not need a console with HD graphics.
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Why are there multiple versions of the DS now? Why did they upgrade the gameboy and GBA multiple times? In both cases they were the dominant player. They did it not just because of the PSP, they did it because they can sell twice to the SAME people.
They won't just make a new Wii because they need to compete, they will make a new Wii because people will buy it giving them double the money.
They will most likely make the new Wii HD totally compatible with current Wii stuff (including the controllers) and then add a hard drive and some other things to get more VC sales. By the time its out (2010 or 2011) it will probably even be able to be a flash drive instead of a traditional hard drive with the way prices on flash memory are decreasing. It will be the same as the upgrades on their handhelds. It will not be a huge change that reinvents the wheel, instead it will be a relatively small change like game boy upgrades have been historically. It may even be less powerful then both the 360 and PS3 still even if it is released later to save on cost and increase profit.
It will probably be around the same price as the Wii and replace it (like the DSi replaces the DS). The same people who would buy a Wii could get the HD and then also many of the people who already got a Wii would buy it again (as many people who bought a Gameboy advance also bought the SP). In a year or two it won't cost much more to make more powerful Wii HD then a traditional Wii and the increased sales to people who already own one Wii would be worth that slight cost increase.
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For one thing, a DS is much cheaper than a Wii. You can easily buy two DS's for the price of one Wii. Since they are cheaper, having someone buy them once (or even 3 times) isn't quite as difficult as getting to buy a Wii multiple times (good luck finding one anyway).
Besides, the DSLite is just a slimmer version of the DS, just like the PS2 Slim was. I don't think many people went and rebought their PS2 just for the slim version (unless their PS2 was breaking...). Many people did get the DS Lite because it was that much of an improvement (though I think the majority of people probably did stick with their phats for a while at least).
Also, I consider the DSi more of the next handheld from Nintendo more than just another DS, since it's games won't work on the DS, and they also removed the GBA slot, so the DSi only plays two generations of handheld games like all Nintendo handhelds - the DS generation, and the DSi generation. The fact that the DSi won't be coming to America/Others for another year shows that Nintendo DID release it because their sales were falling compared to the PSP - in Japan only though. If sales wouldn't have been falling, I feel Nintendo would have pushed the release back longer (they only announced it a few months before it was released, they could have easily not have announced it, hell, it might have been sitting waiting for release for months already).
Finally, handheld lifespans are shorter than consoles, especially now that Sony has become a major competitor in the handheld market. Depending on whether you consider the GBC a successor to the GB or simply a "DSLite"-like upgrade, the lifespans of handhelds have not been long, ranging from 12 years with the GB+GBC (or 9 years for the GB and only 3 years for the GBC), 3 years for the GBA, and the DS is now 4 years old, so it's about time it got an upgrade beyond the redesign of the DSLite, and I do believe the DSi is more of a successor, and not just a redesign, even though Nintendo makes it out to be more of a redesign, and this website is combining their sales. The DSi shares the DS name - it doesn't share the same console line as the DS, just like the "PS"3 shares the "PS"2 name, but they are not the same console.
So basically, there's no reason for Nintendo to try and release an HD Wii, because they are not behind in sales (quite the opposite - they can't them fast enough, adding another console probably won't help that much...), they haven't even dropped the price or added colors, and selling the same console to the same family multiple times doesn't work as well as it does with handhelds, as I've already covered, and Nintendo knows this better than anyone. They already released the Wii, which is much different than any console before it, while the competition released similar consoles to the consoles we've had for 20+ years. And we all know how that is turning out.
I'd also like to point out to one of your other posts about the PS2 doing better than the Wii at this point in its life - no, just no. The PS2 best calendar year was 2002, with about 21 million consoles sold. This year to the end of November, the Wii has sold 20 million units, and that's without most of December, so it'll easily hit 27 million if not more (3.5 million for America, 3 million for Others, 500k for Japan high ends), so I don't see how more next year, with increased production all year (compared to only half of the year this year), how the Wii cannot do more, and juts blow the PS2 out of the water.
Going back to the original topic - I'm not sure what it'll be, since I haven't looked at it in a while. My prediction table that I made last year wherein I calculated the sales of the 3 consoles over the next 5 years or so (and on which my 2008 totals that are in my sig are based), and I have the Wii at 70 million at the end of 2009, which I know now is way too low, but at the time yearly sales were capped at about 1.8 million a month, so now it's higher than that (which is why my Wii 2008 prediction is going to be low as well). Assuming the Wii gets to 47 million by the end of this year, I'll say that it'll reach 80 million by the end of next year. That means Nintendo only has to increase production to about 2.75 million a month (on average over the 12 months), so I feel it's definitely possible.
Course, with the way the Wii is... it's hard to know. Too many factors, especially knowing actual production, but also the fact that we cannot be sure where demand really is, since the darn thing is always sold out. Next year will be an interesting year, no matter what.