That was my first reaction last week. However can you imagine the same error happening twice both in back to back weeks. I suppose if the system is automated the error would replicate itself. However you would expect a simple math check would have picked up on this. Obviously we notice it once the final charts are posted, but unless we have exact numbers we cannot be sure where the reduction took place.

However it is nice to know someone else has noticed it. Either there has been a serious mistake, or this is intentional. Either way it would be worth finding out what the hell is going on. Hard to make predictions when the ground beneath your feet just vanishes.

dodece i noticed this when the numbers came out [i said so on the japan weekly page.] yes it points to a correction in numbers, but i remember the Wii US numbers being 4.07 last week, and 4.15 now so no change to them... this means it was definately ps3 numbers that have been changed, probably due to over estimating in Eu.

its common for totals to be changed on the site, the weekly numbers might change a day or so after release for all regions, which i think is just new info getting to ioi. but US numbers occasionally change monthly if there is a big difference with NPD.
Eu numbers are the most unstable, i noticed that around june the whole set of weekly numbers for 2007 changed, only very little for most consoles but DS went down quite a bit, and ps3 went up.... perhaps ioi started predicting the numbers in a different way since then [to stop ps3 being undertracked] but went too far and has had to revise them back down.

ok just checked weekly others.

i definately remember ps3 being 35k last week, now it's 31k, and the week before i think it was 28, not 25 as it shows now.
therefore ioi must have just revised the others numbers again.
it can be irritating that happening, but as there doesn't seem to be a proper tracker for Eu its difficult...GFK/chartrack i know of but i dont think they release numbers very often...VGC is the nearest you will get to credible Eu numbers until proper financial reports [which dont show consumer sales but they give an idea]

i shall add that chartrack is the strange tracker that for some stupid reason combines sales of multiplatform titles, whilst splitting pokemon D/P, and not giving numbers of sales to help you work it out yourself.

 If they are constantly under revision, how could they be final? lol

Good find Dodece. 

I seriously wonder how many people actually noticed that Europe just vanished off the face of the Earth. That is basically what the adjustments did they removed the last two weeks of sales, and even then some. From what I saw many posters were so keen on the attack, or outright oblivious to the unfounded changes that I even had doubts myself.


Obviously no analytical chart is going to be flawless. I expect that but it is good to know where, and why the changes took place. What is also good to see is how the changes take place. That will help refine my predictions. Definitely helps me understand how my prediction could be over a month off. I obviously need to allow for some sway for the unreliable numbers, and if I see a adjustment. I should allow for at the least two weeks for the changes to be finalized.

What is most important though is that posters do not get slammed for making what at the time was a reasonable prediction based on current data. There is no way that any poster could have saw the adjustment coming. Without inside information that is. I suppose people that made ridiculous short term predictions have amazing dumb luck. Perhaps dumb luck translates out to luck that keeps you from looking dumb. Which is basically what happened a lot of smart posters got their noses rubbed in it. Call it a lesson in hubris I suppose, but karma is a two way street.

Dodece: I already told way back up on the thread.

The numbers were 80k apart because at that time, weekly european numbers were already up, and american numbers were not, thus creating the illusion of a 80k difference when in reality it was 43k.
Numbers were adjusted only this week, and only after reports came from the brittish press that quoted GFK as a source, where xbox360 was outselling PS3 in UK, when this site numbers said otherwise... Thus an adjustment had to be made (That is my guess).

JJseth, please stop calling people stupid specially if they are not arguing wit you, much less paying attention to you. You should calm down. I'm entitled to my opinion and you are entitled to yours, does that give you the right to insult other people? I dont even know who you are.

As for the topic, I guess it could happen this week, since the revised numbers will show less weekly PS3 numbers from now on, and the difference is about 10k...

NEWS FLASH: with the adjustments that took place this week, it seems that Wii already passed PS3 worldwide numbers in America 2 weeks ago.

Week of July 29th

Japan 1061982
America 1738147
Others 1172129
Total PS3 3972258

America Wii 3974505

Ps3 then got the "lead" again last week. like this

Week of August 5th

Japan 1085589
America 1776999
Others 1204007
Total PS3 4066595

America Wii 4066451


They were just 144 units away from each other with Ps3 in the lead.
This week
PS3 total 94431
Wii America 86469

The difference grew 7,962 to 8,106.

Wii could pass it again any week depending on shipment differences in the United States. But the thing is, it already happened, so this thread may rest in peace, and the people calling other people "stupid looking" can eat their own words...



The difference was higher during the month of july, because wii had record sales.

I think it had already happened prior to adjustments but the pricecut had reversed the trend.

Pretty interesting ain't it?

No i'll just wait for the numbers to be adjusted again so that ps3 sold more. When the difference between each console is only a few thousand considering these number have a margin of error of 10-15% declaring the wii the 'winner' is a waste of time.

It's not about declaring any of them the "winner" (because we know which one is the clear winner worldwide). It's about a prediction of when a certain event occur.

Some peple say it won't happen ever, I just found out it happened several weeks ago and it was reversed by now, thus giving the illusion of it not happening.

No the problem is when this site is constantly adjusting it's numbers and it's numbers are only accurate within 10-15%, when one console only goes above another by only a few thousand it's not a fact that it happened, it's to close to call. Only when one console has gone above the other by tens of thousands can you declare one console has definatly outsold the other.