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France sales in 2008 tracked by LSA :

Wii : 1,6 million
PS3 : 708.000
Xbox 360 : 566.000

http://www.lsa.fr/exclusif-lsa-nintendo-france-a-vendu-38-millions-de-consoles-en-2008,102674



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huh, those number are quite different !

does it mean at the end nobody know ???



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BKK2 said:

The Nintendo LTDs were given at the beginning of Feb 2008, so actual sales should be slightly lower through 2007. Anyway, plugging those figures in gives us:


Wii PS3 X360 NDS
LTD through 2007 ~1,300,000 563,000 589,000 ~4,400,000
YTD 2008 1,600,000 708,000 566,000 2,225,000
LTD through 2008 ~2,900,000 1,271,000 1,155,000 ~6.625.000

 

So both Nintendo platforms seem about half a million too high on Vgchartz, but interestingly enough this gap already existed mid November when looking at the numbers in the opening post. So the holiday sales are actually very good, any problem comes from before that period.

 



libellule said:
huh, those number are quite different !

does it mean at the end nobody know ???

Yes i know. You must see the table of BKK2 which take in account all the right informations. Always in this thread, i have posted the right numbers with the right week (see especially this post:  http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?id=1554497 ). And BKK2 has explain in the begin of this thread that the first numbers in this thread was expectations for the end of 2008 (Sony platforms and wii). Now, we give the exact results. Only one change will be made for the wii at the end of 2007, because it's 1,28m, which is more better that the 1,3m actually posted.

 



headhunterz67 said:
France sales in 2008 tracked by LSA :

Wii : 1,6 million
PS3 : 708.000
Xbox 360 : 566.000

http://www.lsa.fr/exclusif-lsa-nintendo-france-a-vendu-38-millions-de-consoles-en-2008,102674

To clarify. BKK2 aready posted these numbers in a precedent post. His first post with the table.

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?id=1656796



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BKK2 said:

 

The Nintendo LTDs were given at the beginning of Feb 2008, so actual sales should be slightly lower through 2007. Anyway, plugging those figures in gives us:


Wii PS3 X360 NDS
LTD through 2007 ~1,300,000 563,000 589,000 ~4,400,000
YTD 2008 1,600,000 708,000 566,000 2,225,000
LTD through 2008 ~2,900,000 1,271,000 1,155,000 ~6.625.000

 

OK BKK2, forget my precedent post, even if it's interesting to read it, i have now found the good informations:

 

Wii at the end of 2007: 1,2m

Wii during 2007: 1m

link:

http://www.lsa.fr/le-high-tech-a-sauve-les-ventes-de-noel,62500

Un léger couac qui n'a pas empêché Nintendo d'écouler 1 million de machines en 2007, pour un parc de Wii qui atteint désormais 1,2 million de consoles vendues.

 

For the numbers of 1,28m wii , it's for the end of januar 2008:

link:

http://www.lsa.fr/1-280-000,63976

1 280 000. Le nombre de consoles Wii vendues par Nintendo sur le marché français à ce jour,

 

 

For the DS, i find that at this date 19 december 2007 (so number for the week ending 16 december 2007):

DS: 4m

link:

http://www.gamekult.com/articles/A0000063341/

Nintendo vient d'annoncer que le parc installé de DS avait maintenant dépassé les 4 millions d'unités en France.

 

For the LTD numbers of the DS at the end of 2007, i find that at this date 4 januar 2008:

DS at the end of 2007: 4,4m

DS during 2007: 2,2m

DS during 2006: 1,4m

link:

http://www.zdnet.fr/actualites/informatique/0,39040745,39377078,00.htm

La console de jeu portable de Nintendo a enregistré une nouvelle année record en France avec 2,2 millions d'unités vendues. « Nous avons connu des semaines à plus de 200 000 Nintendo DS écoulées », confie à ZDNet.fr, Stéphan Bole, directeur général de Nintendo France.

En 2006, elle s'était vendue à environ 1,4 million d'exemplaires, constituant déjà un record national.

Le constructeur japonais assure en détenir 50 %, majoritairement grâce à la DS dont le parc installé atteint en France les 4,4 millions.

 

So finally, it miss the number of wii sold during 2006 (apparantly around 200k) and the number of DS sold during 2005 (apparantly around 800k).

I only find that at this date 15 december 2006 for the DS:

DS: 2m

link:

http://www.afjv.com/press0612/061215_ventes_nintendo_ds.htm

21 mois après son lancement (le 11 mars 2005), la Nintendo DS vient de passer le cap des 2 millions de joueurs équipés en France,

which allow a LTD number for the end of 2006 around 2,2m , and a LTD number around 4,4m for the end of 2007 (because 2,2m during 2007).

 

Finally, i find something at this date 8 november 2005 for the DS:

DS: 350k

link:

http://www.zdnet.fr/actualites/informatique/0,39040745,39285522,00.htm

Depuis sa sortie le 11 mars dernier, 350.000 consoles de jeux portables Nintendo DS ont été vendues en France, selon les chiffres communiqués par le fabricant.

But, it's not enough to give the LTD number of the DS at the end of 2005.

 

For the wii, i finally find that:

wii during 2006: 200k

link:

http://www.all-nintendo.com/Wii-Premier-recapitulatif-du.html

Wii arrive en Europe ce vendredi 8 Décembre 2006. 200 000 consoles Wii arriveront en france du lancement au 31 Décembre 2006 selon Mathieu Minel, directeur Marketing de Nintendo France. Soyez donc au rendez-vous sur All-nintendo et Nintendonline notre structure forum/portail qui vous attend.

But, it's only what Nintendo expected to sell.

 

Next the theory, what has maybe happened:

Wii during 2006: less than 200k

link:

http://www.factornews.com/news-19265-Pas_assez_de_Wii_le_8_decembre.html

Tandis que Nintendo comptait mettre en vente 200 000 machines, Stephan Bole, Directeur général de Nintendo France, annonce dans une interview dans le magazine JDLI que ce nombre ne sera pas atteint et que "la situation sera très tendue en fin d'année". 

 

But during 2007, it's little more than 1m, so the LTD number at the end of 2007 (1,2m) must be right:

Wii during 2007: a little more than 1m

link:

http://www.zdnet.fr/actualites/informatique/0,39040745,39377078,00.htm

À titre de comparaison, la Wii, la console de salon de Nintendo, s'est écoulée en 2007 à un peu plus d'un million d'unités.

 



So Wii LTD through 2007 was 1.2m, and DS LTD through 2007 was 4.4m? Maybe we'll get PSP & PS2 numbers through 2008, so I'll wait until I add them, but as you said, PS2 should be ~6m, and I guess PSP should be a little over 2m.


Wii PS3 X360 NDS
LTD through 2007 1,200,000 563,000 589,000 4,400,000
YTD 2008 1,600,000 708,000 566,000 2,225,000
LTD through 2008 2,800,000 1,271,000 1,155,000 6,625,000


So what's the conclusion for 2008. Were we over or under on anything?



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celine said:
zeross said:

 

nintendo wii :

 2.200.000 >wii >3.000.000

 

Something wrong here

Nice to know the situation beyond the Alpes. France was always a pro-Nintendo country ( compared to other nation like Italy or Spain ).

 

what are you talking about? Spain hates Sony and Microsoft SOO MUCH.

 



BKK2 said:

So Wii LTD through 2007 was 1.2m, and DS LTD through 2007 was 4.4m?

Yes i think, they are right.

The only number i can't find, and which miss to be very confident, is the number of DS sold during 2005. But i don't see some reasons that the link which give the LTD number of 4,4m at the end of 2007 give false informations.

For what is overtracked, undertracked, ... Brett can see the number and make what he think he must do.

It's not to us, to say what he must do.