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Legend11 on 04 August 2007

I remember reading postings from people saying that E3 would be the place where the Wii would start to see a huge wave of better games from third parties, better meaning they wouldn't be the same old PS2 ports, minigames, and budget titles that many third parties seem to be dumping on the Wii in order to turn over a quick buck on the system.  So what happened?

So far the last few games I've seen announced for the system for 2008 have indeed been the same types of games (a PS2 multi-platform game and a budget title for instance).  So why are games like Zack and Wiki and Boogie so few and far between and it seems that many third parties are still putting their top teams on games for the PC/360/PS3?  Why are third parties instead putting spinoffs and jnr. titles on the Wii?  Will it be another year before that wave finally starts to hit or is this what we can expect for the next few years?



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akuma587 on 04 August 2007

Developers are praising the Wii with their right hands and making 360/PS3 games with their left hands.



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super_etecoon on 04 August 2007

Legend...I'm not so sure why you care. This holiday season is more than I can deal with as it is. We all know the power that first party Nintendo has over its own console. So would 3rd parties. Why, even if they were ready, woukld a 3rd party release their games this holiday season against such a strong line-up. If I were a 3rd party I'd wait until March when even the most mediocre game looks new and shiny. I think Dewy's adventure will suffer this fate, for instance. But again, I'm not sure why you are concerned. Wii fans don't seem to be. They only have so much money and time.



BenKenobi88 on 04 August 2007

The games coming out this year rock....

Next year we'll have Mario Kart, No More Heroes I'd assume...I'm sure plenty of games to keep me busy...so I don't really care. There's more than enough good games being made I'd say.



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carlos710 on 04 August 2007

Someone asked this on capcom's forum and they said that most developers/publishers focus on their 07 releases before making '08 announcements.

By the way, they have stated in their forums that they are working on at least 3 more games for the wii (besides RE:UC, Zack & Wiki and Devil kings 2)



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HappySqurriel on 04 August 2007

E3 this year was very (VERY) unusual ... Third parties (for the most part) didn't show of anything new for any of the platforms and there was no major news for any of the platforms.



ckmlb on 04 August 2007

Wait why didn't you include Boogie with the budget titles and whatnot? You should have said Zack and Wiki and No More Heroes.



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Legend11 on 04 August 2007

Well there are going to be dry spells for Nintendo first party software. I mean how often does Nintendo have a Fall/Christmas lineup like the one they have now? What happens when things slow down, I've owned a N64 and Gamecube so I'm well aware of the dry periods for those consoles and I'm just surprised that it may repeat again even though the Wii is doing much better than those two systems.



super_etecoon on 04 August 2007

Good point Ckmlb. I don't know anyone who is excited about Boogie.



naznatips on 04 August 2007
Legend11 said:

I remember reading postings from people saying that E3 would be the place where the Wii would start to see a huge wave of better games from third parties, better meaning they wouldn't be the same old PS2 ports, minigames, and budget titles that many third parties seem to be dumping on the Wii in order to turn over a quick buck on the system. So what happened?

So far the last few games I've seen announced for the system for 2008 have indeed been the same types of games (a PS2 multi-platform game and a budget title for instance). So why are games like Zack and Wiki and Boogie so few and far between and it seems that many third parties are still putting their top teams on games for the PC/360/PS3? Why are third parties instead putting spinoffs and jnr. titles on the Wii? Will it be another year before that wave finally starts to hit or is this what we can expect for the next few years?


Well anyone who claimed E3 would be when you would see a change was kidding themselves.  Developers anounced a shift in focus less than 2 months before E3, and no one announces new games at E3 without anything to show.  Really, barely anyone announced any new games at E3 at all... which was odd to say the least.

Certainly Wii developer support is slowly raising, but I will repeat what I have said some hundreds of times now "By the end of 2008 the Wii have a noticably dominant share of big new IPs from 3rd party developers."  They will never have the dominant share of old IPs.  However, I also think many of these old IPs are dying this generation. 

I think it's asking too much of 3rd parties to expect them to be able to shift focus to a platform they expected to completely bomb within the first year of it's life.  Even Wii games take more than a year to make good.  Meanwhile, I will sit back and watch as generic FPS after generic FPS flops in the over-saturated FPS market (The Darkness).